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Western States Storm Watch LIVE THREAD
1/7/05 | me

Posted on 01/07/2005 10:29:23 AM PST by BurbankKarl

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Hwy. 18 near Big Bear, Saturday 1/8/2005


181 posted on 01/08/2005 6:01:18 PM PST by lainie
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FLASH FLOOD WARNING issued 5:47 p.m.

CAC071-090745-

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
FLASH FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
547 PM PST SAT JAN 8 2005

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN DIEGO HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR..SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST CALIFORNIA THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...FOREST FALLS...UPLAND...SAN BERNARDINO...RIALTO...RANCHO CUCAMONGA...HIGHLAND...FONTANA

* UNTIL 1145 PM PST

* AT 539 PM PST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED FLASH FLOODING FROM PERSISTENT HEAVY RAIN NORTH OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND SAN BERNARDINO. THE HEAVY RAIN IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR SEVERAL HOURS.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO CAJON SUMMIT...MUSCOY...WATERMAN CANYON...LAKE ARROWHEAD.. CRESTLINE AND RUNNING SPRINGS.


182 posted on 01/08/2005 6:16:17 PM PST by lainie
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To: Betis70
We've only had a few feet so far on the south shore at about 6500 feet. Up at 10000' it sounds like they have had about 4-5 feet so far. Hard to tell what it is doing now as it is pretty windy.

Hopefully we will get another half dozen feet before this is done. Combined with the New Years storm, we have a pretty decent sized snow pile out there now. Waiting to see if it will get deep enough to block the door.

-tb
183 posted on 01/08/2005 6:21:46 PM PST by tahoeblue
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To: lainie

184 posted on 01/08/2005 7:19:13 PM PST by socal_parrot (Lashed to the mast, riding out the storms.)
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To: lainie

Is that the "front" part of the 18 lainie, or the "back" part on the way to the Bear Valley Cutoff?


185 posted on 01/08/2005 7:23:14 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: socal_parrot

ooooo good map!

I'm listening to the NOAA weather channel on my CCCrane (heh) and some sort of urgent just was broadcast.


186 posted on 01/08/2005 7:23:17 PM PST by lainie
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To: A CA Guy

Did your neighbor fare okay?


187 posted on 01/08/2005 7:25:27 PM PST by lainie
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To: lainie

Yeah, the digging to get water out worked well.

This was at this friends mother's house. they have a slab house and the water was blocked and as it rose, they worried it would go inside.

All was OK.

I had them turn off the electricity to their outside AC unit because water was starting to rise on it.
I don't know if it would have eventually shorted out or anything, but why take a chance?

There are all kinds of flood warnings by me, rain is expected to SLAM us late tonight.

Hope this helps our water supply and places like Mono lake.


188 posted on 01/08/2005 7:29:42 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Hey, I've always loved San Diego, my folks live in the SF valley, but...

giggle


I moved to Seattle 8 years ago.. You're getting all our bad weather this winter! Sorry!
189 posted on 01/08/2005 7:30:06 PM PST by Acrobat (One vote per voter)
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To: kstewskis; socal_parrot

From socal_parrot in #118, the news was "Several hundred vehicles" are stranded between Snow Valley and Big Bear along Highway 18; this area is called the Arctic Circle? I'm not familiar with the area enough to know where Bear Valley Cutoff is.


190 posted on 01/08/2005 7:31:07 PM PST by lainie
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To: lainie

One year I went up to look at something with a friend to Big Bear Lake. I happened to see all these lake side homes being built. Thought all of them would be worth a bunch.

Next trip up was after a major rain like we had and the lake had consumed those same homes that appeared to be in the lake at that point.

There had been low levels of water at Twin Lakes in Mammoth, Mono and other lakes. Hope this brings up our water supplies.


191 posted on 01/08/2005 7:34:15 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: lainie

Bear Valley cut off in south of Hisperia out in the desert off I-15. Behind the mountains, or north of the mountains in the desert.


192 posted on 01/08/2005 7:34:58 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: lainie

?????????!!!!!!!


193 posted on 01/08/2005 7:35:29 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: A CA Guy

Hal Fishman on Channel 5 did a commentary last night, something akin to 'why aren't they building more reservoirs so that we can catch this when it happens?' Speaking completely out my posterior (as I suspect Hal did, too), I have to assume geologists have weighed the possibility of new reservoir/dam sites already. A better solution might be to, like you said, restock those places from which L.A. draws. I don't pretend to know the intricacies of the system, but the drought seems to be officially OVAH.


194 posted on 01/08/2005 7:36:52 PM PST by lainie
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To: lainie

Dangerous situation, I hope help arrives to these stranded people before their gas and car heaters go cold.


195 posted on 01/08/2005 7:36:59 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MD_Willington_1976; ScottFromSpokane; randog; luckymom

That's not snow you guys, that's more Gregoire ballots raining down from the sky.


196 posted on 01/08/2005 7:38:18 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: lainie
between Snow Valley and Big Bear along Highway 18; this area is called the Arctic Circle?

That would be the "front" way, were folks from San Bernadino and environs would typically take.

I'm not familiar with the area enough to know where Bear Valley Cutoff is.

There's a "back" Hwy 18. If you follow the road through town, and past Bear Mountain, you can take it there. IIRC, Bear Valley cut off is down in the valley once you get off the mountain. You can take it to Victorville, and catch I-15 that way, or the 138 and head to Palmdale.

197 posted on 01/08/2005 7:40:26 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

OH! Now I get it. I'm in the high desert so when someone talks about "the back way" I have to reorient according to where they are.

So where is Snow Valley? I don't see it right off on my map.


198 posted on 01/08/2005 7:41:23 PM PST by lainie
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To: lainie

Well, I was informed that big bear dam was finished being retrofitted and having lots more cement poured to make it stronger just a month before that big earthquake long ago.

At that time, there was like now a high level of water.
There was debate about not repairing the dam to more modern standards.
It was later reported that had the Big Bear Dam not been updated as it had, the whole town below it (can't remember the name), would have all been wiped out with water.

I think the issue of earth movement and quakes go into the equation concerning the building of new reserves for water. It is also tough for money to get allocated for that as illegals remove over 9 billion a year from the budget in various services.
It gets complicated.


199 posted on 01/08/2005 7:43:49 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: kstewskis

Right, now I get it. Been studying my Hubbard Scientific raised relief and now I think I understand. (I'm up northeast of Palmdale)


200 posted on 01/08/2005 7:45:16 PM PST by lainie
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