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To: cinives

Thank you, cinives. That is a very well written article. I'm not quite done reading it yet, but the 3 points below really resonate with me.



“All the time I just sat there
sat there
Waiting for something to happen.
My teachers should have ridden with Jesse James,
My teachers should have ridden with Jesse James
For all the time they stole from me.”
***This was written by an 11 year old. It expresses the sentiment better than I do.




"...the teacher replied that to assist Tanya to achieve still further when there were other children in the class who might never reach her current level of achievement, would be a violation of the principles of social justice."
***I sometimes think that a large percentage of the problems we run into in the educational establishment are the result of these kinds of socialists running the show. They do not have the best interests of these children in their heart.



Yet research suggests that “the bird that’s tethered to the ground” is at much greater risk of social isolation and emotional maladjustment through inappropriate grade placement with age-peers.
***Not only research, but just read through the thread above to find some solid anecdotal evidence as well.


182 posted on 01/13/2005 10:08:22 AM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Kevin OMalley
***I sometimes think that a large percentage of the problems we run into in the educational establishment are the result of these kinds of socialists running the show. They do not have the best interests of these children in their heart.

I believe research shows that it's a classic case of envy - teachers against children, not just socialism. Not that there aren't talented and great teachers out there, on the contrary, but the vast majority of teachers today have substandard SAT scores, lackluster college transcripts, and are mediocre students even in do-nothing pedagogy courses that they take to become teachers.

My dd had a 6th grade language arts teacher tell her that she shouldn't be using "big" words because other kids might not understand her.

BTW those who are socialists are usually those who inherited wealth or privilege or those who are envious of it. Same difference. They hate excellence and aristocracy in any form. Even if they inherit wealth, they know they don't deserve it. Ayn Rand had some great writing on this subject.

183 posted on 01/13/2005 10:53:12 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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