Posted on 01/06/2005 7:45:43 PM PST by ranair34
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Please keep me on PING list I don't have much time right now. I pop in and read anyway. I just ruined another laptop with a glass of tea.
Thanks for the ping!
AAAARGH.
PRAYERS FOR THAT!
I had to institute strict habits with myself years ago on that score. Almost totally works.
Mostly very precise and limited in what I do with liquids around my keyboard.
I still eat and drink in grandma's laz-y-boy where I have my cordless logitech keyboard. But the water is always precisely put on a wheeled shelf affair to my right--a lower shelf of which holds my cordless track ball.
I'm prone to doing several things at once. But I limit my handling liquid drinks to doing only that at one time.
And, many of the drinks, I have with lids on and a straw.
I had to insure that I had smooth movement of drink from resting place to mouth--totally unimpeded. And not at all awkward but very natural and easy in movement, reach etc.
And, when I eat and drink, keyboard goes up on a drawer from the desk above and a couple feet from my chair opposite the corner the drink is on.
I also have to be very careful when I get out of the chair for the night and take the drink to my bedroom. I don't move until I'm steady and stable and then and only then I pick up the drink. I don't want to fall and spill it on the LCD flat screen monitor or my computer--which has an open side for cooling--always on.
I don't know if any of that would help--but that's what I do.
Back in history, if I spilled something on a keyboard, I quickly unplugged and turned upside down. Then I'd take a folded edge of a paper towel and run between keys where water or whatever was.
The problem tends to be liquid AND power on.
Water by itself without power is not usually a problem. The keyboard IC boards are vigorously washed as part of the manufacturing process.
FWIW.
Blessed sleep to you.
OF COURSE.
The Truth of God's Word -bump.
I'ts just a matter of time.
Of course, put my name on the list.
Thanks, plenty.
God gave the book and obviously expects us to do something with it. Certainly your warning not to forsake preaching and teaching Jesus is well taken, but to ignore Revelations completely is obviously not what God intended.
There are things in Revelations that have clearly not happened yet. To say that it was only written for first century Christians is clearly wrong.
I did not say to forsake studying and teaching Revelation. I teach the book regularly, but from a very different perspective than dispensationalism.
In fact, the book has much more meaning for people today when understood from a non-millenial perspectve.
John wrote the book to encourage early Christians during persecution. The same assurances and encouragement apply to all Christians for all time.
To make the book begins by telling us it is about things that are shortly to come to pass. 2000 years is definitely not "shortly". In addition, writing a book that is discussing events 2000 away would not have been encouraging to the original recipients of the book.
Revelation is written in apocalyptic language. People of that time had many books in the apocalyptic genre, for example the Book of Enoch. I am not putting Enoch up as inspired Scripture, merely pointing out that apocalyptic style language was used in that day.
We are all free to believe what we believe. However, do not confuse interpreting Revelation through nondispensational eyes as rejecting the book or its teaching.
I have made an in depth study of the book, including Walvoord and other dispensational writers. I know the arguments well. My understanding of the book is not based upon a whim or failure to study. It is based on prayer, research and spending a great deal of time in study.
To the contrary, knowing that God holds the future in His hands whether it's tomorrow or 20,000,000 years away is encouraging to believers.
The book itself talks about a 1000 year reign of Christ to dismiss the entire book as events that would happen in the first century is to ignore the plain language of the book.
"1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."
Tell me what this verse means according to your understanding. Has the first heaven and first earth already passed away? And did it pass away by fire as Peter said it would? And is there still a sea?
Bump.
As I said earlier, this is not a forum to go into in depth discussion, so I am not going to argue passages. I simply want folks to know that the dispensational concept of Revelation is not the only method of interpretation out there.
If you want a real discussion, I suggest you buy or check out of the library a copy of
Revelation (Interpretation, a Bible Commentary for Teaching and Preaching) by Eugene M. Boring (Hardcover).
This is an excellent presentation of the amillennial interpretation.
Whoops. I misstated my point. I meant to say to reassure the Christians of God's protection during the persecution by Rome. Even if one dies, one still wins. "Be faithful unto death and you will receive a crown of life."
Ultimately the book says that we are winners whether we live or die and that is true under whatever circumstances we live.
The World's Future From Biblical Predictions
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I've travelled to France many times and think it's a wonderful country. The people are so friendly and have always welcomed my family and friends.
I love the French Alps, canals and rivers.
The food is so good.
The French have a high quality of tolorence, and it is that which I admire the most. The churches are open to everybody and not for business (which is something I really dislike here in Texas).
There may only be seven mountains in France,
but there are cathedrals built a 1000 of years ago,
of such beauty, proving their strong belief in God.
If only we could concentrate some of our taxes on building houses of God, instead of spending it on bombs.
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