[MikefromOhio]

my parents said the same thing if we got a girl pregnant. They said you dont even THINK about shirking the girl or not having the baby.... my parents were the type to brook no argument on that type of subject....

[marmar]

This kid was riding on a high hog with this women. She loaned him her car, credit card to gamble, and was part of him crashing in school. That's not reality, and I don't know how emotionally stable he is, will some of these things get in the way. Some of these can turn into addictions. I am glad I don't have any kids, it would be hard on my heart to have to deal with this stuff.