Posted on 01/06/2005 11:14:53 AM PST by Bryan
WASHINGTON - A group of Democrats angry with Election Day problems in Ohio forced Congress on Thursday to interrupt its ceremonial counting of the electoral votes that gave President Bush his re-election victory.
The challenge does not jeopardize Bush's November win over Democratic Sen. John Kerry. But the House and Senate, as legally required, began separate debates on the Ohio irregularities. It marked only the second time since 1877 that the House and Senate were forced into separate meetings to consider electoral votes.
The joint session began as required by law at 1 p.m. EST, with Vice President Dick Cheney presiding as the Senate's president and about 100 lawmakers present. One by one and in alphabetical order, certificates of each state's electoral votes were withdrawn from ceremonial mahogany boxes and read aloud.
Sixteen minutes into the session when Ohio's votes were read, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, issued her challenge, saying the votes "were not under all of the known circumstances regularly given."
Her challenge to Ohio's 20 electoral votes — which put Bush over the top — was joined by Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. By law, a protest signed by members of the House and Senate requires both chambers to meet separately for up to two hours to consider it. Lawmakers are allowed to speak for no more than five minutes each.
"I have concluded that objecting to the electoral votes from Ohio is the only immediate way to bring these issues to light by allowing you to have a two-hour debate to let the American people know the facts surrounding Ohio's election," Boxer wrote in a letter to Tubbs Jones, a leader of the Democratic effort.
The action seems certain to leave Bush's victory intact because both Republican-controlled chambers would have to uphold the objection for Ohio's votes to be invalidated. Supporters of the drive said that rather than changing the election outcome, their hope was to shine a national spotlight on the Ohio voting problems.
"The goal is to debate the issue," Tubbs Jones said in an interview. "And why not? We go across the world trying to ensure democracy, but there are some problems with the process in the United States."
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&ncid=716&e=5&u=/ap/20050106/ap_on_go_co/electoral_vote
Ping to your lists, please.
Let's debate the fraud in the Washington gubernatorial election.
The media will package this nonsense as if it had some merit. If the Republicans were pulling a stunt like this, the media would characterize it as nonsense.
I was just listening to Hillary Clinton on Rush's show. He was accessing her speech and oh I am now sick. I was laughing at all of this before, but anytime she gets free airtime it just makes me physically ill.
Tired of the left lying and accusing the right of imaginary crimes?
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There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate
He is there illegally!
Kerry was an illegal candidate
and is an illegal US Senator per
US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3
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"A group of Democrats angry with Election Day problems in Ohio"
This should read, "A group of Democrats angry with the Election Day a$$ whipping Bush put on Kerry in Ohio"
They had better be careful. They're already on thin ice.
Good, lord. What a whiny little twit Boxer is.
January 5, 2005, breaking hard
(Washington DC) - The well lubed Democratic Machine is in full thrust. Millions of voters are set to march in Washington DC tomorrow to protest the certification of electors. The other shoe has finally dropped and Bush's 2nd Inauguration may not happen. The brilliant non-partisan Representative John Conyers, Jr., Ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee has released the long-awaited Status Report Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio. This report weighing in at over 100 pages threatens to shake up Washington DC and rock the world with rock-solid evidence of how Bush stole Presidency for the second time.
Among the most damaging evidence from the report includes:
-While Republicans sat comfortably in their country club and had voting machines brought to them to cast their votes while eating caviar, Democrats had to fight the bitter cold and rain to go to their own polling place and some even had to wait in line to vote.
-Evil Hitler wannabe Uncle Tom partisan Bush supporter Secretary of State Blackwell actually insisted that voters be registered to vote, similar to tactics used by the Nazi's in the 1930's.
-Exit polling data which has never been wrong in the over 4 billion years the earth existed of roughly 1200 Ohioans did not match the actual vote of over 5.7 million voters. Non-partisan Berkley statisticians calculated the odds of this happening approaching nearly a google-plex to one, which happens to be the odds of Richard Simons being straight.
-The Bush-controlled corporate monster Triad, who provided Ohio's corrupt voting machines, actually provided information to elections officials to assist them in their recount, thus insuring the recount would match their corrupt results.
-While the honest Democrat challengers randomly selected precincts with a perfect mix of all races and politely challenged voters without any partisan motives, the brown-shirt Bush supporters concentrated their vote challenge efforts in Democratic areas, and used their disruptive bigoted tactics to intimidate mostly in minority areas.
-There were thousands and thousands of intimidated voters who were scared by these Gestapo tactics into not selecting either candidate for President. These spoiled ballots alone could have given the real winner, the honorable war-hero patriotic Senator John F. Kerry, the election.
These numerous unexplained unprecedented highly-illegal irregularities are sufficient cause for both houses of Congress to reject Ohio's electors, thus giving John F. Kerry the majority of electoral votes cast and thus making him the President-elect. Disregarding theses illegal Ohio electors, and ignoring the apparent vote of 5.7 million people is the only way to restore our Democracy and rebuild the lost confidence that everyone has with our corrupt voting process. January 6, 2005 is set to be a historic day for America, perhaps even surpassing July 4, 1776. Yes, help is on its way!
Ping!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!
"He (Lurch) is in the wrong place, at the wrong time, for the wrong reason."
LMAO I am watching it on C-span, I think Nancy Pelosi is drunk as hell. She can hardly complete a sentence and cannot pronounce half her words.
You can see how they're reporting this with this kind of article. They are speaking as if this is logical and completely acceptable. I can't find anything funny or amusing about this because these people are sick and enemies of this country. This shows how dangerous they are. We cannot stand by and allow this to go silently. They need to pay for this in '06 and the media needs to be held accountable.
The republicans should object the electoral votes of PA (where there was proven voter fraud)and WI. I think there is a more legitimate argument with those states than OH
Let them do this crap. The more they do it the more and more the right gets fired up and angry.
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