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To: Lukasz
Who cares about definition of democracy.

I do and many others. Without preserving the clear and proper meaning of the words you cannot have freedom, laws or justice. Read 1984.

It is simple you share democratic values or you don’t share.

No, democracy is not about vague "democratic values" or free looting by mafia.

I repeat that from your conditions Arafat was democratic ruler and Hitler probably too cause NSDAP was elected by German people.

I am not sure about Arafat's "elections". But Hitler came to the power through the democratic process. It is a proof that democracy is not a perfect system. Very likely if the German Emperor were in place or some other autoritarian regime, Hitler would not have the chance to come to power. That is why Americans were willing to let Japanese keep their Emperor after WWII. Also Bolsheviks came to power thanks to the pro-democratic removal of the Tsar.

This is nonsense democracy it is something more than just elections.

No, you practice the Orwellian thinking when the words lose clear objective neutral meanings. In Newspeak each word "signifies" something completely good or completely bad. PC "democracy" does not mean plain traditional imperfect democracy. It means the immaculate bag of "democratic values" assigned by the masters of the official worldview to their favored actors.

70 posted on 01/07/2005 2:57:58 PM PST by A. Pole (Hash Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!".)
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To: A. Pole
I do and many others. Without preserving the clear and proper meaning of the words you cannot have freedom, laws or justice. Read 1984.

Let say that you are right. Then fact that Russia would be democratic country means nothing, exactly nothing.
72 posted on 01/08/2005 2:17:36 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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