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Feinstein and Chafee want to abolish Electoral College
The Providence Journal ^ | 1/6/05 | Scott McKay

Posted on 01/06/2005 7:06:55 AM PST by EA_Man

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To: EA_Man

I think it's very funny how people fall all over themselves in an effort to be oppressed by the country that was founded by the evil white man.


41 posted on 01/06/2005 7:23:58 AM PST by Anvilhead
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To: hellinahandcart
Okay, we must eliminate the Senate itself, along with any semblance of "states" while we're at it. It's only logical, if they want to get rid of the EC. I'm glad that Feinstein and Chafee are willing to sacrifice themselves for such a good cause.

Since they're advocating a direct violation of Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution (states guaranteed a Republican form of government), I'm proposing that impeachment hearings begin immediately on these two idiots. [Maybe if we just gave them some Happy Meals with the inflatable "Dave the Barbarian" Viking helmet and sword they would just shut up and go away!]

42 posted on 01/06/2005 7:24:17 AM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: nuke rocketeer
Not only no, but hell no. This is the agenda of SOCIALIM!!!!!!!!!
They do not want the fly over states to have anything to say in what happens in the White House.
A very few of our largest cities would decide who our president is. The rest of our votes would not count or matter. Diane Feinstein thinks all the people in the Red States are stupid. She thinks that we will vote away our right to decide who is our President. I think Sen Diane Feinstein is the stupid one for insulting us by acting as though we are going to buy into this fiasco, and we all know she is a hard core socialist.
43 posted on 01/06/2005 7:24:25 AM PST by oldenuff2no (Proud Nam Vet)
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To: mdhunter

The Senate accounts for regionalism in the legislative branch. That alone would leave the executive and judicial solely in the hands of densely populated areas (given their "blue" propensity, areas populated by the dense). The electoral college puts some regional, small state influence into the election of the president, and thus the appointment of the judiciary.


44 posted on 01/06/2005 7:26:44 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: EA_Man

I have a counter-proposal for Boxer and Chafee: let's return to state legislatures electing senators!


45 posted on 01/06/2005 7:26:45 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Howlin

It would take the 37 states that have 10 or less Electoral Votes to pass an Amendment that would disenfranchise themselves. Also while I am not a Constitutional scholar, maybe if Ann C. is trolling she could confirm this, but since the Electoral College is set in the Articles, are they not sacrosanct?


46 posted on 01/06/2005 7:29:44 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: HenryLeeII

This idea will be DOA in Congress...MUD


47 posted on 01/06/2005 7:30:12 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Rummyfan

Getting Kalifornia voters NOT to vote for Boxer and FINKstein is like getting Hannibal Lecter not to chow down on errant census takers!


48 posted on 01/06/2005 7:30:49 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: Borges

2/3's of the house and senate. 75% of the states.


49 posted on 01/06/2005 7:33:10 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: EA_Man
Wonder why?

Could it be...thinking....thinking....that all those 'blue states' aren't really blue 'states', but actually 'blue cities'? And getting rid of the Electoral College will put the elections in the hands of the cities, where most liberals and 'blue state' voters are.

If the EC were removed, the 100 largest US cities would determine the elections.

It is a good thing the Founding Fathers had more sense and patriotism than self-interest politicians do.

The Constitution should not be changes for such partisan interests, including:

==for those wanting to eliminate the EC

==for those wanting to allow foreign born to run for the Presidency

==for those wanting to allow foreigners (including illegals) to vote in our elections
50 posted on 01/06/2005 7:33:18 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: EA_Man

"It is an irony of the 21st century that presidential elections in an era of the Internet and internationl jet travel are decided by the Electoral College, a system established by men -- no women were allowed to vote -- who communicated by quill pen and horseback mail and traveled by clipper ship."

This has to be one of the dumbest sentences ever written. The right to free press, the right to free speech, the right to bear arms, the right to assemble, the right to due process of law, freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, and all of the other rights we cherish were recognized in a document "established by men -- no women were allowed to vote -- who communicated by quill pen and horseback mail and traveled by clipper ship." Without the rights guaranteed to him by these politically incorrect and technologically backward men, this Scott McKay person would be bludgeoned with his own keyboard, and forbidden from ever inflicting his ignorance on others. As it is, all we can do is marvel at his stupidity.


51 posted on 01/06/2005 7:33:40 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: EA_Man
Neat - it will spell death to Gay unions/marriage and to partial-birth abortion, and to anti-Christianity if we actually get to count individual opinions.

Ironic how the Dims don't seem to understand the principles of the whole thing that actually allowed them to have a minority-view say in things...

52 posted on 01/06/2005 7:34:05 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: EA_Man
"As a Rhode Islander . . . I'd like to see the presidential candidates make an investment in Rhode Island. The last election came down to just Ohio and Florida."

Gotta love the logic - or lack of it. Abolishing the electoral college will result in politicians flocking to Rhode Island to garner votes. :-)

53 posted on 01/06/2005 7:35:51 AM PST by plain talk
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To: EA_Man
amounts to national elections being decided in several battleground states."

. . . rather than in the cemetaries of Chicago, like they should be!

TS

54 posted on 01/06/2005 7:36:18 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: massgopguy

http://www.fec.gov/pages/elecvote.htm


55 posted on 01/06/2005 7:37:09 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: EA_Man

Don't worry - its going nowhere. This is more about throwing mud on the legitimacy of Bush's win than it is an effort to amend the Constitution. Its all about politics.


56 posted on 01/06/2005 7:39:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: EA_Man

Go back to sleep, Lincoln.


57 posted on 01/06/2005 7:40:47 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: EA_Man
To quote one of our finest ex-Presidents:
"Mend it, don't end it."

Make the other 48 states do what Nebraska and Maine do. That'll really wake up the "Blue" States when certain districts realize that their vote would count!

58 posted on 01/06/2005 7:41:12 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

No kidding....


59 posted on 01/06/2005 7:42:37 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: EA_Man
The system was erected by the men who founded the United States in 1789 because they did not trust average citizens....The Electoral College has evolved into a system that favors small states...

Who is this idiot Scott McKay quoting here? Or is he taking it upon himself to be wrong?

The representative method of voting for federal offices was established from the very beginning solely because the smaller colonies feared not having a significant voice in the new federal government. It had nothing to do with the founding fathers 'not trusting' the citizens, slow communications, or women not being allowed to vote. It didn't evolve into a benefit for smaller states, it was designed that way. Sheesh, nothing like showing your ignorance as a reporter.

Oh, and maybe someone should tell the good Senator Chafee that reducing the impact of his state's one million or so citizens is not exactly going to make them more appealing to babysitting visits from presidential candidates. Sorry, sir, you are still going to have to do your own campaigning.

60 posted on 01/06/2005 7:44:45 AM PST by Antonello
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