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To: bikepacker67

I would never stand for my kids being "quarantined". There are some things that can be avoided with little or no harm to the rest of the school. Sunlight is not one of them. I agree that some kids need to be quarantined....a kid that is allergic to the sun should be homeschooled or something else. Peanut allergies are very common. I don't think it's too much to ask people not to eat peanutbutter or peanuts for a few hours at school. The allergist we see said if another person ate/touched a peanut butter sandwich or some nuts and touched a desk or whatever, it could trigger a severe reaction in some. Having peanuts on one's breath could trigger a similar reaction. No offense, but if it were up to insensitive and ignorant people like you, my kid would be "quarantined" from school. All because someone wants their kid to have a peanut butter sandwich. After what my kids have been through, I look at it as a life or death situation.


25 posted on 01/05/2005 5:54:37 AM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: johnfkerrysucks

So what's next? Is peanut butter going to become illegal?


26 posted on 01/05/2005 5:57:51 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: johnfkerrysucks

So what's next? Is peanut butter going to become illegal?


27 posted on 01/05/2005 5:58:10 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: johnfkerrysucks
SO to accommodate the children with severe dairy allergies we should not allow milk or cheese at school. Where does it end. One more thing on the endless list of reasons to continue home schooling my four children.
30 posted on 01/05/2005 6:02:00 AM PST by DYngbld (I've read the back of the Book and guess what? .... We WIN!)
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To: johnfkerrysucks
Having peanuts on one's breath could trigger a similar reaction. No offense, but if it were up to insensitive and ignorant people like you, my kid would be "quarantined" from school.
So, what if a student has a PB sandwich for breakfast before getting to school? Do you make all his playmates sign contracts stating their peanut-free status?

And how is this different than the myriad of life-threatening allergens that exist?

As for the insensitive/ignorant comment, I suggest you stop thinking that the world revolves around you, or your kids.

31 posted on 01/05/2005 6:02:22 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: johnfkerrysucks
I would never stand for my kids being "quarantined".
No of course not. You'd rather see EVERYONE ELSE accomodate your child.

Jeez... talk about hubris.

32 posted on 01/05/2005 6:03:30 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

No offense, but if it were up to insensitive and ignorant people like you,

Holey Moley. But, moving on, I really don't see how you can, in all conscience, allow your kids to go out into a situation where they might be exposed to peanuts, peanut breath, residual PB & J on sticky fingers, peanut butter cookies... It truly must be frightening to roll the dice every morning when you pack your kids off to public school & the idea of field trips...that's a situ best left unsaid.

46 posted on 01/05/2005 6:21:23 AM PST by elli1
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To: johnfkerrysucks
Having peanuts on one's breath could trigger a similar reaction

Well then, we may as well take the next step - one can't eat peanut butter on toast at home for breakfast then come to school, because they might breath on an allergic person. Are we going to have toothbrush police or somekind of peanut breathalyzer that has to be passed before admission?

Perhaps these children that are so allergic can't go into grocery stores, since there may be some bulk peanuts not in wrappers in the store.

What about a family where the breadwinner works in a peanut factory and comes home with peanut dust on their clothes They pick up and hug their child and the child comes to school with peanut dust on their clothes. Should we have rules about that child being in the same classroom or lunchroom?

Can a non-allergic child not have a snickers bar in their lunch? How about left over chinese food cooked in peanut oil?

I know that probably sounds flippant to you. It isn't meant to. I understand your concern about your child, and it must be incredibly difficult to avoid peanuts and peanut products. When a child is at a location away from your supervision, you must worry all the time.

However, when we cater to the needs of the few pretty soon nothing will be allowed. Some people are deathly allergic to shellfish - maybe we shouldn't allow children to bring a lunch has traces of shrimp in it to school. Some people are incredibly allergic to latex. Maybe we shouldn't paint the school walls with latex paint. Some people are so allergic to cats or dogs that they'll have trouble breathing. Should families with pets have to maintain separate "animal free clothing" so that animal dander won't cause a reaction in sensitive individuals?

I also believe the allergic children should be the ones seated at a separate table rather than the non allergic ones. Unfortunately, they're saddled with this issue and they're going to have a (probable) lifetime of having to deal with it. While you are certainly free to disagree, I believe it isn't doing them (or anyone else) any favors to have them think that the world has to change because of their needs.

50 posted on 01/05/2005 6:30:39 AM PST by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: johnfkerrysucks
I agree that you and your family are truly suffering with the peanut allergy ailment. However, inconveniencing an entire elementary school is not going to help your child. Is your child expected to "grow out" of his peanut allergy? If not, how do you expect to provide a life long peanut free bubble around him? So your kid makes it through elementary school... What are you going to do about high school? Does your child plan on attending college? How will he be insulated against peanuts there? How are you going to protect your child from peanuts when he enters the workforce? Is your child ever going to ride public transportation? Or by that time will we have legislation creating "peanut free" buses? What about sitting in a taxi cab after the previous occupant had been eating peanuts? As you can see, the whole idea of "peanut insulation" is pretty absurd. I truly have compassion for you and your family. But, don't make my life miserable because of your problem.
52 posted on 01/05/2005 6:31:57 AM PST by Conservative Infidel (When peanuts are outlawed, only outlaws will eat peanuts.)
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To: johnfkerrysucks
No offense, but if it were up to insensitive and ignorant people like you,

Why say "no offense" then become very offensive? My son was home tutored (paid by the school district) during a sensitive period in adolesence but I didn't require everyone else to stay home and my son be the only one in a classroom. Get real.

78 posted on 01/05/2005 7:02:25 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

So, tell me. Are you also going to campaign to have peanut oil prohibited in all public restaurants? How far does society have to go to accommodate your children? Should all public accommodations be made "peanut free" or be forced to establish sealed, separated "peanut galleries" so that your children can be protected?

I mean no offense or insult to your children. I know several people with severe peanut and fish allergies. Most of them have learned to avoid seafood restaurants and restaurants that they know cook with peanut oil (chinese restaurants commonly use peanut oil, as do some fast food restaurants for their pressure fryers for chicken).

The sooner your children learn that they are responsible for avoiding peanuts and fish, the longer they are going to live without any allergic reactions/episodes. It's not the responsibility of the government or the schools to shield your children from this responsibility (and your responsibility as their parent).

Some people have religious beliefs that forbid meat on Fridays (some only during lent). Fish and peanut butter are excellent nourishment for a meatless day. Actually, I try to go (mostly) meatless one day a week. Fish have some very good nutrients and vitamins and are excellent for you health. The same can be said for peanut butter.

If I'm reading your posts right, it seems like you think that I (an 99%+ of the population) should be restricted and limited just to protect the few among us who have these allergies.


81 posted on 01/05/2005 7:06:13 AM PST by cc2k
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To: johnfkerrysucks

So it's FINE for everyone ELSE's children to be "quarantined"?


83 posted on 01/05/2005 7:06:49 AM PST by Politicalmom ( Since Bush was selected in 2000, shouldn't he be able to run again in 2008?)
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To: johnfkerrysucks; shezza
I don't mean to be on a soapbox, but I don't think that you are being truly fair to those who can not afford another form of lunch for their child. Peanut Butter is not expensive.

I would never stand for my kids being "quarantined". There are some things that can be avoided with little or no harm to the rest of the school.

I have to agree with the majority here, they need to have a table for your child that is "peanut free" and not punish the whole school. You said that you wouldn't stand for your child to be "quarantined", but yet you approve of others being ostracized for having peanut butter?

150 posted on 01/07/2005 6:16:58 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV
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To: johnfkerrysucks
"Peanut allergies are very common."

I have great sympathy for your child's affliction, but I rather doubt "very common" is an appropriate description.
169 posted on 01/08/2005 4:43:26 AM PST by Freedom4US
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