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To: wardaddy
We have drifted towards a democracy and worse....the land of judicial fiat. Neither were in the minds of the founders

The first Republican president is responsible for destroying the bulwark of our Republic - State sovereignty and the 10th amendment. We were left with a consolidated democracy.

24 posted on 01/04/2005 10:12:48 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
"The first Republican president is responsible for destroying the bulwark of our Republic - State sovereignty and the 10th amendment. We were left with a consolidated democracy."

I've spent a fair amount of time over the years, thinking about this and believe your statement is accurate.

It's posible though, that the lesson of the civil war is that strong state's rights and a weak federal government just didn't work. It's also possible that a corallary is that a republic is less effective than the democracy they were protecting against in the first place.

I'm not saying that I'm conviced of either of those ideas, but it something to think about.

26 posted on 01/04/2005 10:26:17 PM PST by tjg
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To: Gunslingr3
Gunslingr3 wrote:

The first Republican president is responsible for destroying the bulwark of our Republic - State sovereignty and the 10th amendment.

We were left with a consolidated democracy.






Our State governments are no more 'sovereign' than the federal.

As the 10th notes, some powers are prohibited to the States. [primarily, -- they cannot infringe upon individual rights]

All sovereignty is retained by the people. We delegate some powers to governments to wield on our behalf, but our rights remain inalienable & sovereign.
57 posted on 01/05/2005 8:46:49 AM PST by jonestown ( Tolerance for intolerance is not tolerance at all. Jonestown, TX)
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