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To: blam

Well, insofar as it's meaningful to argue about a historical term... Historians generally consider the Dark Ages to have begun in the fifth century, when a series of barbarian peoples invaded the Mediterranean world and destroyed urban civilization.


20 posted on 01/04/2005 8:08:33 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
"Well, insofar as it's meaningful to argue about a historical term... Historians generally consider the Dark Ages to have begun in the fifth century, when a series of barbarian peoples invaded the Mediterranean world and destroyed urban civilization."

Read this

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

23 posted on 01/04/2005 8:15:19 PM PST by blam
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Well, insofar as it's meaningful to argue about a historical term... Historians generally consider the Dark Ages to have begun in the fifth century, when a series of barbarian peoples invaded the Mediterranean world and destroyed urban civilization.



Sounds kinda like the USA and its invading illegals right now...


29 posted on 01/04/2005 8:36:47 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: SedVictaCatoni

"Historians generally consider the Dark Ages to have begun in the fifth century, when a series of barbarian peoples invaded the Mediterranean world and destroyed urban civilization."

The Germanic "barbarians" did not destroy Mediterranean civilization. The various Gothic rulers of the Italian peninsula kept the Roman administration and city structure functioning as it had been for centuries.

Credit for the destruction and depopulation of urban areas in the Mediterranean goes to the decades long war of reconquest of the Italian mainland by the forces of the Byzantine Emperor Justinian and his general Belisarius.


35 posted on 01/04/2005 9:07:44 PM PST by ryanjb2
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Historians generally consider the Dark Ages to have begun in the fifth century, when a series of barbarian peoples invaded the Mediterranean world and destroyed urban civilization.

I'm no historian, but the barbarian invasions were interesting because it was the first time multi-culturalism destroyed a society... it was the twighlight of the Roman Empire and the Romans allowed non-Roman citizens to move into Roman territory. They also didn't require them to speak Latin and allowed them to maintain their own cultures. This was the first manifestation of multi-culturalism that some believe had a role in shattering the empire.

They didn't allow this in the Eastern Empire (Constantinople), so the Eastern Empire lasted until the Turks stormed the gates in 1453.

50 posted on 01/05/2005 3:00:08 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: SedVictaCatoni

when a series of barbarian peoples invaded the Mediterranean world .... And who WERE these barbarians, exactly, hmmmm? Maybe, Ohhhhh, maybe...MOE-HAM-HEADS? (Best Church Lady imitation)


64 posted on 01/05/2005 10:12:59 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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