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1 posted on 01/04/2005 4:39:00 PM PST by chiller
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Whew! This is a long thread! I didn't read it all, but I'll add this fyi, just in case:

Our info base is sketchy, but the only logical place a group of signatures could be observed for fraud would be on the absentee or provisional ballots.

Visualize looking over the log signatures for the voters who went to the polls. Would it mean anything if the handwriting of a signature on page 12 was similar to the handwriting of a signature on page 41?

No, it wouldn't. Without some way to group the signatures for inspection, this would be a futile task unless some other information of fraud was known or apparent.

However, if you have a stack of absentee or provisional ballots, the examiners can more easily review individual documents and look for trends. Those documents bearing similar handwriting cannot be examined for validity (without seeking out the voter himself), but those documents can be examined to show that the same person may have signed multiple documents.

The handwriting itself cannot be matched, since all the signatures will be of different names and not subject to the type of positive comparison needed in a courtroom, where the questioned signature is compared against a known signature, both being for the same name.

There could be more information on the documents themselves. Was the ink the same on the questioned signatures? Do the documents originate from a particular location, or were they filed on the same date? Things like that, trends, if substantial enough to create doubt about the validity of the group of suspect ballots, will invalidate the vote(s). "Courtroom proof" is not required, logically based doubt is enough.

The info reported by Fund is almost too preliminary to even be mentioned, unless the similarities were just obvious, such as if the defrauder(s) signed them "en masse", one after the other. Visual observation of similarities would be likely in that case, but, IMO, that's about the only scenario that fits the info supposedly coming from Fund.

I'm 60/40 on whether this whole deal is a hoax or not. (60% that it's a hoax.) We should know pretty soon, I guess.



240 posted on 01/05/2005 1:40:38 AM PST by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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242 posted on 01/05/2005 2:49:44 AM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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See what I mean.


243 posted on 01/05/2005 3:09:19 AM PST by SkyPilot
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bttt


263 posted on 01/05/2005 8:56:30 AM PST by meema
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So, is this another scandal that will be confined to FR and talk radio and never make the MSM, and Christine Gregoire will waltz off with the election anyway? And the Dems are poised to steal OH and put Kerry in office...because this BS goes on and on.


264 posted on 01/05/2005 8:58:31 AM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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Shocked! Shocked I am that any would suggest the democrap party in Washington is crooked! LMFAO!


267 posted on 01/05/2005 11:21:41 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Co-ed naked FReepin' dude!)
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Bumpity-bump-bump BTTT


271 posted on 01/05/2005 1:34:16 PM PST by PowerPro (DOUBLE W - He's STILL the one. Now don't that feel GOOD????)
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274 posted on 01/05/2005 2:08:56 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (I know there's good will toward men on account of that Baby born in Bethlehem)
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Voter Fraud Ping


280 posted on 01/05/2005 2:47:28 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: chiller

Perhaps these were written by the same person but in parallel dimensions.


281 posted on 01/05/2005 2:49:02 PM PST by SGCOS
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Take samples of the ink and compare.


290 posted on 01/05/2005 7:48:57 PM PST by cabojoe
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This is NOT fraud. It's only fraud if it's an attempt to influence the outcome of an election. Haven't you heard?


294 posted on 01/08/2005 3:55:14 AM PST by dinodino
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