Muslim Nations Stingy with Tsunami Aid

NewsMax.com ^ | 1/04/05 | Carl Limbacher

[eccentric]

okay, where's a quick link to countries, listed by GNP? What about contributions from the Muslim countries in north Africa and western Asia?

[Steve_Seattle]

Spain and France made relatively substantial contributions; but in the early going, the entire continents of Africa and South America were no-shows, as were Russia, Poland, Hungary, Belgium, Taiwan, Austria, and the Philippines.

[Steve_Seattle]

"To speak only of absolute amounts is meaningless."

I wouldn't call it meaningless; if the USA ends up giving $800,000,000, that's more meaningful to the victims than a $100,000 contribution from Lichtenstein, even if it happens to be a smaller percentage of our GNP.

[ZULU]

Remember, CHARITY is one of the pillars of ISLAM!!!(sarcasm)

What bull.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Remember, CHARITY is one of the pillars of ISLAM!!!(sarcasm)"

Also, remember that Islam has no clergy; all those Imams and Mullahs and Sheikhs just SEEM to look and act like clergy. [more sarcasm]

[Napoleon Solo]

It won't happen if those Muslim countries have any say!! The Israeli company can sell the product direct to hotels, etc., but our Religion for Peace friends do not want anything to do with anything Israeli or Jewish!!! They refused to have any Israeli planes with Medical help or medicines land in their countries, then changed their minds and then went back to none. But they will take the free drugs and emergency goods. No Israelis but still take their goods as long as they have no Jew markings!!

The Israel Discount Bank in New York, a US bank cannot open a letter of credit or anything to do with the Indonesians, etc since it has Israeli backing. Too bad for the people who will still be affected and die from lack of help from all of their Muslim brethren. So where are the Saudis, Omanis, Egyptians, Kuwaitis, Iranians, etc.? In Paris with their boyfriends most likely, drinking up a storm and whoring around if not buggering the local populace.

We should give money to our National Guardsman families who are on welfare or will be losing their jobs when they return from the service in Iraq. We should also fund the headstones for our brave departed servicemen which the US government will not fund to cover the graves created from our needed action on fighting a war with one hand tied behind their backs.

Where is GWB and his Military staff to unload the full force of our military might? No Air Force or Navy warplanes have been used to flatten the dens of these terrorists once and for all. So that means we fight under 17th Century rules in the 21st Century without the technology.

Not one dime of my money will go to support the efforts to the Tsunami victims if the monies need to go through their governments!! My money will not go to the UN, either. What I will donate will go as product only to those organizations such as the American Red Cross or UJA-Federation or American Jewish World Service.

[MayflowerMadam]

I like how Ceci Connolly, Mary Ann Marsh, etc., criticize America for spending more on aid for Florida victims than on the current tragedy. Do they even realize that Florida is a part of America, while Sri Lanka, etc., are filled with people who will be killing us in 10 years? The dems aren't getting any smarter, are they?

[John Lenin]

Muslims can't give big donations to charity, it would make what they do to the Palestinians look bad.

[semaj]

What I find interesting is that the earthquake and tsunami happened one year to the day on the anniversary of the earthquake that levelled the city of Bam in Iran, which, if you didn't know, is predominantly Muslim. Indonesia, according to the CIA, is over 88% Muslim.

Was God in the Tsunami? Who knows?( I apologize if this is the wrong thread to post this in.

[grizzly84]

Jack Cafferty of CNN jumped on this this morning, he mentioned that one of the countries (Saudi Arabia I think) gave much much more money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. These countries are eternally focused on their own petty vendettas and power struggles. A catastrophy that might add up to as many casualties as Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined fails to reach them.

[Publius6961]

This may be a good time to ask... How much has Canada, aka Canuckistan, contributed? Air transport? Naval assets? Anything?

[Publius6961]

I wonder how the Saudi donations compares with their spending on those infernal Wahabbist indoctrination camps they fund around the region, world, including the U.S.A.

Is hasn't occured to our government, I am sure, that mosques and muslim schools, financed by foreign countries (as opposed to the people using them) are probably terrorist factories.

[Publius6961]

To speak only of absolute amounts is meaningless.

Keep a sharp eye on your paycheck...

That is the silliest statement I have heard in the longest time.

It is the cry of a mentality used to demanding credit for good intentions, not actual benefit achieved.

[leakinInTheBlueSea]

"To speak only of absolute amounts is meaningless."

only if you consider socioeconomic policy meaningless. get a crackpot dictator to drive any semblance of an economy into the ground with corruption, regulation and isolationism, and $100 looks like a significant chunk of the GNP. If you want to start playing games with what metrics of charity are meaningful, you need to consider ALL factors, including what resulted in a nation or nations being ill-prepared to financially handle a natural disaster. hell... the U.S. is nearly 8 TRILLION dollars in debt, but we are somehow prepared to handle our own disasters and others?

[followerofchrist]

I thought about this after reading that tiny Britain pledged 94 million a few days after the disaster. Muslim nations need to care for their own people and really should have pledged a billion per oil rich country. Western nations give out of generousity and compassion, with no return. Why is it we are OBLIGATED, then castigated for stinginess? Why not say thank you instead? As much compassion as I have for the victims, the news media saw fit to report dozens of them complaining that the U.S. wasn't already there. I hate to say it, but if we weren't the world's big brother, people wouldn't expect things from us, they would accept our help as the gift it is.

[mlmr]

Charity is mostly a Western, JudeoChristian concept. Why do we expect people who do not share our worldview or values to see things our way??

[nosofar]

I wouldn't call it meaningless; if the USA ends up giving $800,000,000, that's more meaningful to the victims than a $100,000 contribution from Lichtenstein, even if it happens to be a smaller percentage of our GNP.

Read the post. Yes, the absolute amount means more "to the victims", but so what? That wasn't the subject of the post. Rather, it seemed more to whine about how unfairly6 we are being judged in this issue, that certain Muslim countries were allegedly more stingy that we are. I won't waste my time repeating how any comparison should be made for it to mean anything.

[Red Sea Swimmer]

There is an opportunity amongst all of this chaos for some trust building and healing between the nations to take place. We'll see how "grown-up" the "leaders" of the respective warring nations become when they see innocent people affected by this act of God. The nature of this tsunami disaster is different in it's traumatic impact than a war or terrorist attack, as most people can see that all of us are "In the same boat" so-to-speak.

It is true that some nations are more compassionate, outward looking and charitable than others.

[CaptainAwesome2]

We need to give more tsunami aid. By that I mean we need to help create additional tsunamis. They are our best ally in the war on islam.

[The_Reader_David]

Yes, but it's a concept stolen and incorporated into Islam by Mohammed: Muslims must give 1/40th of their income in charity. (Very shrewd--he picked what turns out to be the average level of giving when a tithe is not enforced by social pressure or force of law.)

The question is why so little of this 1/40th of the income of all the oil sheiks is not being directed toward the tsunami victims, many of whom are even Muslims.

Incidentally, I noticed on Netscape's news site that a formula-one racing driver has tied the Saudi and Omani goverment's contributions out of his own pocket.