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To: dsc
There is NO"clique".

I,for one,was insulted,called names,and harassed,by someone who had no other means at hand,to deal with a factual post.

YOU presume to know GOD's inner most thoughts and feelings.You don't.

You came into this fray,because "what you saw made you want to puke". Your words. You didn't approve of anyone standing up for themselves,against a hailstorm of insults and calumny spewed by people who you agree with. That's YOUR problem and a rather large one,at that;since reading things that aren't in lockstep with your way of thinking,makes you so ill,that you want to vomit,you really should go live in some remote place,where you can blissfully ignore those who don't share your views.

I was called "JEZEBEL" by someone. I'm not divorced. I've never committed adultery,before,nor after I was married. There is absolutely NO way that that slur of a sobret is fitting. But,and I am assuming that you put me into the "clique",you found nothing at all wrong with THAT behavior...only in the behavior and replies of those women (NOT THE MEN!),who were taking the other side of the debate.

Objective? You haven't been "objective" since you began to post.Neither have you been truthful about who said what to whom and when.You took one side and that has colored ever single reply you've posted.

When will YOU take exception to those on your side,who who took this personal and attacked others with ridiculous and spurious names like "JEZEBEL" and "cackling" and "immature little girls"? My guess is never.

723 posted on 01/05/2005 12:44:09 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"There is NO"clique".

Oh, it could be an ad hoc clique, but I call four or five people acting like you guys a clique.

"YOU presume to know GOD's inner most thoughts and feelings."

That is exactly the sort of behavior to which I objected. I have said absolutely nothing to justify such a nasty crack, and neither had at least several of the other people who were on the receiving end of them.

"You didn't approve of anyone standing up for themselves,against a hailstorm of insults and calumny spewed by people who you agree with."

No, it was you people who were the source of a hailstorm of insults and calumny aimed at those who disagreed with you.

"since reading things that aren't in lockstep with your way of thinking, makes you so ill,that you want to vomit"

Yup, insults and calumny just like that. People can disagree on the subject of divorce all day and all night without making me want to puke.

But people who make remarks like yours just above and "YOU presume to know GOD's inner most thoughts and feelings," which are as groundless as they are insulting--and who then pat themselves on the back for their wonderful behavior and noble tolerance--set the technicolor yawn in motion.

I probably wouldn't have said anything, despite the way you and the others misrepresented your opponents' remarks and used your own misrepresentations to insult them, if you hadn't at the same time been congratulating yourselves on your wonderfulness.

"But,and I am assuming that you put me into the "clique",you found nothing at all wrong with THAT behavior"

Well, at least he didn't spend several notes contratulating himself for his own tolerance, empathy, understanding, etc. etc. Anyway, the venom was already flowing freely by that point.

"only in the behavior and replies of those women (NOT THE MEN!)"

Another unjustified smear.

"Objective? You haven't been "objective" since you began to post. Neither have you been truthful about who said what to whom and when. You took one side and that has colored ever single reply you've posted."

Here's my first post: "Please don't think I'm trying to sit in judgement on anyone, but to comment in a general way, it seems to me that where a husband is beating his wife the men of the church should be giving him an attitude adjustment. In some cases, at least, that might work."

I await your retraction.

"When will YOU take exception to those on your side,who who took this personal and attacked others with ridiculous and spurious names like "JEZEBEL" and "cackling" and "immature little girls"?

When they (a) start congratulaing themselves for *not* acting like that when they really are, or (b) when they start acting like that toward people who aren't already acting like that.

"My guess is never."

And another slur.


806 posted on 01/05/2005 6:16:13 AM PST by dsc
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