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Boggs, Sandberg Elected to Baseball Hall of Fame
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=545&ncid=755&e=1&u=/ap/20050104/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_hall_of_fame ^ | Tue, Jan 04, 2005 | RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer

Posted on 01/04/2005 11:42:36 AM PST by IndyTiger

Wade Boggs was overwhelmingly elected to the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility Tuesday, and Ryne Sandberg made it with just six votes to spare on his third try.

Boggs, a five-time American League batting champion for the Boston Red Sox (news), was selected by 474 of the record 516 voters who are 10-year members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America.

The 91.86 percent of ballots he received was the 19th-highest percentage in Hall history, and he became the 41st player elected on his first chance.

Sandberg, the 1984 National League MVP for the Chicago Cubs (news), was picked by 393 voters. He appeared on 76.2 percent of ballots, just above the 75 percent cutoff (387). Sandberg received 49.2 percent of votes in 2003 and got 61.1 percent last year, falling 71 votes short.

Results of voting by the Veterans Committee will be released March 2. Gil Hodges, Tony Oliva and Ron Santo were among the 25 candidates on that ballot.

(Excerpt) Read more at story.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Illinois; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: baseball; boggs; boston; chicago; cubs; hof; mlb; redsox; sandberg
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To: Labyrinthos
They are the only two other 2B's from that era who are qualified to stand on the same stage as Sandberg.

Davey Johnson notwithstanding

101 posted on 01/04/2005 1:35:48 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: wireman

hahahaha...


102 posted on 01/04/2005 1:38:04 PM PST by dakine
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To: MediaMole
The real shock will be when the first guy with 500 home runs is snubbed.

There's more than a good chance that Dave Kingman was blackballed from baseball to keep him from reaching 500 homers and a Hall of Fame induction. He had 442 homers at age 37. Over his last three years he averaged 33 HRs and 101 RBI's, with no tail off in power at the end. Even though he only hit .210 in his last year, his Park Adjusted OPS was still about average for the league. His home run totals and batting averages could have been even higher had he not played in two deadly parks over the last six years of his Career (NYM and OAK).

I wonder how he would have done in Colorado in his prime (heck, even at the end).

103 posted on 01/04/2005 1:38:09 PM PST by vollmond (Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.)
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To: 4kids dad

I love twisting Cardinal's fans tails....

Cal revolutionized the position....

had he not, A Rod would have never played SS...

History will show that Cal is the one that made the SS a power position....

and I believe that Ripken holds 2 key records that show him to be a great infielder...

the 1990 season was the very peak of his defensive career...he had 3 count em 3 errors in 162 games!! that is a .996 fielding percentage. Unequaled by either of the Ozzies....who are both great fielders in their own rights...

Ripken more than held his own against them.

I pulled this off of ESPN

Ripken the fielder

Holds single-season record for highest fielding percentage by a shortstop -- .996 in 1990.
Holds record for fewest errors by a shortstop in 150 or more games (3, 1990).
Holds AL career records for double plays (1,565) and most years leading league in putouts (6).
Holds AL single-season record with 583 assists (1984).
Led AL seven times in shortstop assists.
Seventh all-time in career assists by a shortstop.
Second all-time in career double plays by a shortstop (to Ozzie Smith).
Holds AL record with 95 consecutive errorless games at shortstop.


104 posted on 01/04/2005 1:42:14 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: IndyTiger

Bummed about Tony Oliva... : (


105 posted on 01/04/2005 1:43:13 PM PST by StrictTime (New Year's Resolution #1 : Stop FReeping so much and clean my house.)
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To: vollmond
...his Park Adjusted OPS...

Freeper Primates? Who'd a thunk it?

106 posted on 01/04/2005 1:45:21 PM PST by GallopingGhost (Freedom costs a buck 'o five)
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To: AmishDude

Gwynn was hitting .394 when the strike killed that season. He was going up too at the time. I think he would have made it to .400 if not for the strike.


107 posted on 01/04/2005 1:45:41 PM PST by Pylon (R)
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To: Pylon

Ripkin and Gwynn also played their entire career with 1 team. That is something you don't see anymore.


108 posted on 01/04/2005 1:50:15 PM PST by Pylon (R)
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To: BlackRazor
I'm not necessarily saying they should be in the HOF, but I'd give guys like Edgar Martinez (69% of career games at DH), Harold Baines (58%) and Paul Molitor (44%) as full consideration as any player

I see what you are saying, I just think that their not playing should be taken into account. Choices for the HOF are in esseence the judgement of a players value relative to anothers. Edgar Martinez's value is less compared to a player who has the same batting ability yet was also an asset in the field.

109 posted on 01/04/2005 1:52:19 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: AppyPappy

Davey Johnson isn't quite in the same league as Sandberg, Morgan, and Carew. Although Johnson's fielding percentage is the same as Morgan's (.981), he's below Carew (.985) and Sanberg (.989). In the hitting department, Johnson (H 1252, HR 136, RBI 609, AVG .261) isn't even close to Morgan (H 2517, HR 268, RBI 1133, AVG 271), Carew (H 3053, HR 92, RBI 1015, AVG .328), or Sandberg (H 2386, RBI 1061, HR 282, AVG .285).


110 posted on 01/04/2005 1:52:41 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: MikeinIraq
Your fielding pct. will be higher when you don't have any range. Ozzie could get to and get outs on balls Cal would just have to watch go by. I saw Ozzie get an error on a ball no one else would have gotten close to because it was just off his glove. Other ss would not have even tried.
111 posted on 01/04/2005 1:53:06 PM PST by 4kids dad
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To: Pylon

his last at bat that year was a single up the middle too....


112 posted on 01/04/2005 1:54:29 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: 4kids dad

LOL

let me guess, you watched Cal all the time?

That's funny....I seem to remember a 6'5" guy with just as much range seemingly as Ozzie Smith play short stop for seemingly ever in Baltimore....

Ripken would move around. He used information on batters, on his pitchers and on the situations. Smith always stood in deep short.

It is kind of funny that every seems to bash Cal for being a average Short Stop when he was easily the best for a long time in the early to mid 90s....


113 posted on 01/04/2005 1:56:29 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq
Nobody said he was not a great ss just that he could not field with Ozzie.
114 posted on 01/04/2005 2:00:40 PM PST by 4kids dad
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To: MikeinIraq

Being in San Diego, I got to watch his whole career. I also worked for the Padres from 85-89 and can tell you that he is a great guy and very humble of his greatness. He also has done alot for this city in the charity department, much of it out of the public eye. He could have left San Diego as a free agent and made alot more money but he stayed because he loved it her and is very loyal. Even now, he could be making alot more money is broadcasting and such but chose to coach at SDSU instead.


115 posted on 01/04/2005 2:01:22 PM PST by Pylon (R)
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To: 4kids dad

im saying he held his own at the very least....

watching him every day proved that to me, the stats should prove it to everyone....


116 posted on 01/04/2005 2:05:35 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: Pylon

well lets see here...

broadcast and get stuck calling a horrible Detroit - Toronto game in April in the cold or coach SDSU in 70 degree weather...

hes smart too!! :)


117 posted on 01/04/2005 2:06:32 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq

Mike are you still in Iraq?


118 posted on 01/04/2005 2:07:56 PM PST by 4kids dad
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To: 4kids dad

Nah I got out of there 2 days ago...

I am in Qatar doing some off shift work as a result, but I can handle that :)


119 posted on 01/04/2005 2:08:48 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq
My daughters class[ Hamilton Il class of 2003] had 53 students. 11 of them joined the service. several in the Marines some to the Air Force and 5 or 6 to the National Guard
unit across the river in Keokuk Ia. They just got called up and arrived in Iraq this week. I pray for there safety every night. I will add you to my list even if you are misguided about whose the best shortstop.
120 posted on 01/04/2005 2:16:09 PM PST by 4kids dad
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