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School 'Peanut Gallery' Raises Eyebrows [Peanut Butter Sammich eaters segregated]
Fox News Online ^ | 1/4/05 | Jeff Goldblatt

Posted on 01/04/2005 7:54:07 AM PST by TheBigB

YORKTOWN, Ind. — Savannah Dowling is a typical 8-year-old girl; much of her protein comes from peanut butter sandwiches.

However, if she wants to bring one to Central Indiana's Pleasant View Elementary School, she has to eat it at a special table in the cafeteria to accommodate one first grader with a severe allergy. Soon she'll have to take her lunch to an area the school is calling the "peanut gallery" so the one child with the peanut allergy isn't affected.

"I don't think everybody should have to suffer because of one kid," said Mike Raper, a critic of the idea and fiancé of Savannah's mother. "I think it's a terrible precedent. Basically, because there's nowhere to draw the line. You've got people allergic to milk, wheat. My own son's diabetic. There's just no where to draw that line."

School Superintendent Mary Ann Irwin called it "one of the most challenging" accommodations the school has made for its students.

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KEYWORDS: allergy; foodallergies
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To: Gone GF
I guess it would be more convenient for people without these problems if the ones with the problems just started dying again.

It would be more convenient of the onus was placed on the individual with the allergy to protect him/her self, and to ask the community for support. What is going on here is the onus in placed on the community to make sure nobody ever gets near the kid with a PB&J sandwich. For example, I am allergic to a lot of things. I don't think any of them are life threatening, although shellfish might be if it were to get worse the next time. I make a point of avoiding shellfish, and people around me know not to put it in the fofod that they serve me. However, I don't demand that everywhere I go that nobody else is allowed to eat shellfish.

201 posted on 01/04/2005 12:53:15 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: tfecw
In my Opinion more then half of ADD cases is the explanation used for bad teachers...

IMHO, I completely agree with you. I know of one kid whose mother was a drunk (I suspect a little Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) who really needed Ritalin. I mean, the difference between him medicated, and not medicated, was astonishing. He's grown out of it, and is very well-adjusted, and doing great in college.

I think that Ritalin is making a huge mountain out of a molehill. The few kids that need it, really need it. The rest just need some parenting.

And, to stick on-topic at least a little.....this peanut allergy thing is life-threatening, and new. However, I don't see what's wrong with setting up a 'peanut-free' zone in the caf. I figure that it's easier to keep peanut products out of a small area, than try and contain them to a larger one - Simple, sensible, easy. Naturally, the school's administrators do the opposite.

202 posted on 01/04/2005 12:54:21 PM PST by wbill
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To: ssaftler

"You HAD to blow a well-reasoned comment with crap like this, didn't you?"

Given the tone of the post I was responding to I don't think the comment was at all unreasonable.


203 posted on 01/04/2005 12:54:37 PM PST by Gone GF
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To: Gone GF

I suppose. Maybe an emoticon was necessary there. Sorry if I misread it.


204 posted on 01/04/2005 12:57:13 PM PST by ssaftler (This tagline for rent. Inquire at daschle@senate.gov)
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To: Rodney King

"However, I don't demand that everywhere I go that nobody else is allowed to eat shellfish."

And I don't demand that nobody else be able to eat wheat, rye or barley around me, except that it is limited to certain area of the kitchen at home to reduce the numbers of crumbs. From what I read, people at this school are still allowed to eat peanuts and peanut butter, but only in a certain area.

I do think they did things bass-akwards. They should have a table for this child and if others want to eat with him/her, they must be peanut free to do so.


206 posted on 01/04/2005 12:59:16 PM PST by Gone GF
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To: HenryLeeII
Allergy treatment consists of giving the person a very small amount of the allergen by injection and over a long period of time they gradually become less sensitive to it.
Food allergies are not treated by this injection method. There is a newer treatment where antigens are dissolved under the tongue. A peanut allergy as severe as this child has might not be treatable this way. Any exposure to peanuts and they likely will die.
I only know one person who has a severe peanut allergy and she is over 50 now. So much for it never happening until lately.
207 posted on 01/04/2005 12:59:57 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Gone GF
And I don't demand that nobody else be able to eat wheat, rye or barley around me, except that it is limited to certain area of the kitchen at home to reduce the numbers of crumbs. From what I read, people at this school are still allowed to eat peanuts and peanut butter, but only in a certain area.

Fine, the point is though, that the kids who are eating PB&J are engaged in a normal behavior. Rather than forcing them to sit at a special table, their should be a PB&J free table for the kids with the allergies.

208 posted on 01/04/2005 1:01:30 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: TheBigB
Call me insensitive, but wouldn't it make more sense to banish the one kid with the peanut allergy from the lunchroom?
209 posted on 01/04/2005 1:02:29 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: oso blanco

"If a child grows up expecting everyone else to protect them from contact with peanuts, and doesn't learn how to protect themselves, what happens when they come into contact with people that don't know they have a peanut allergy?"

I can absolutely guarantee you the child is being taught to protect himself. But this is a first grader. I taught my first grader about the danger of vehicle traffic, but that doesn't mean I let him cross or play in it because eventually he would be exposed to it.

As I said before, if my child had a life-threatening allergy, I would make all efforts to home school for at least the first few years. That, however, would insulate him even more from peanut eaters.


210 posted on 01/04/2005 1:03:36 PM PST by Gone GF
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To: Rodney King

"Fine, the point is though, that the kids who are eating PB&J are engaged in a normal behavior. Rather than forcing them to sit at a special table, their should be a PB&J free table for the kids with the allergies."

I didn't say it too clearly, but that's what I meant in the last paragraph of my last post.


211 posted on 01/04/2005 1:05:07 PM PST by Gone GF
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To: Gone GF; Sam's Army

I used to have a latex allergy.  When I'd use dish gloves, and touch my eyes later, they'd swell shut.  It took 4 months before I realized what it was, but I'll be damned if I was going to let that allergy ruin my life.  I continued to use the gloves and then deliberately touched my eyes afterwards.  I nearly went blind and to this day I can't wear contacts and am no longer a candidate for laser eye correction.  Eventually, I gave up and just washed the dishes without gloves (today, I have my kids do it) but I gave those gloves a lesson in persistence they'll not soon forget, and I'm better the man for it.

 

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the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

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(Yes, she really said that
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212 posted on 01/04/2005 1:06:02 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (Fly Eagles Fly, On the Road to Victory! Fly Eagles Fly, Score a Touchdown One Two Three!)
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To: nuffsenuff
Peanut allergies are serious and some kids can have major reactions (i.e. life threatening reactions) from the slightest contact to peanuts.

Well then, maybe he should keep his fingers out of the other kids' sandwiches.

213 posted on 01/04/2005 1:08:53 PM PST by houeto
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To: Gabz
Children exposed to others who are different at a young age seem to be less likely to be "bullies" and pick on those who are different when they get older.

If you've noticed my tagline...6 years ago, while working as a school crossing guard, ALL my hair fell out. (doctors call it alopecia which means "your hair fell.") I had always worn hats, but when the kids started to notice, some asked if I had cancer. I reassured them that I was very healthy and this can sometimes happen to anyone. I figured, if someday there is a bald student in school, I helped to ease any stigma.

214 posted on 01/04/2005 1:27:29 PM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: wbill

See my post #207. Peanut allergy is not new but it may be increasing.


215 posted on 01/04/2005 1:29:12 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Mrs.Liberty; Polyxene

WHOA! Let's not jump to conclusions about segregation, isolation, etc. The allergic child does not have to eat alone, just monitor those around him. In the same way, who said a ham and cheese eater can't eat with his friends in the peanut gallery?


216 posted on 01/04/2005 1:33:20 PM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: Rodney King

Most did die earlier of "congestion" or some undiagnosed illness. I had a friend just drop dead from an allergy (don't know what it was), his roommate (college) said he suddenly couldn't breathe, by the time the ambulence got there, he was dead. This was some time back and allergy diagnosis and treatment wasn't as good as now. (Ambulence response wasn't as good either, most likely.)


217 posted on 01/04/2005 1:48:52 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army
I'll be damned if I was going to let that allergy ruin my life. I continued to use the gloves and then deliberately touched my eyes afterwards. I nearly went blind and to this day I can't wear contacts and am no longer a candidate for laser eye correction. Eventually, I gave up and just washed the dishes without gloves (today, I have my kids do it) but I gave those gloves a lesson in persistence they'll not soon forget, and I'm better the man for it.

Exactly! I say slip a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup in the kid's lunch bag each day, then up it to two when he can handle the first one, and get him over it that way. Besides, as recent research has shown, 97.839% of all allergies are psychosomatic, so slip the kid some PB without him knowing about it, and chances are he'll be fine!

218 posted on 01/04/2005 2:03:47 PM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: AppyPappy

"Or perhaps many of them are fabricated. I know a family whose child is suddenly deathly allergic to peanuts and the other children must be controlled for her sake.

Odd she didn't have this deadly problem for 3 years."

I was stung by bees four times as a kid and never got so much as a red mark. Then, in college, I got stung again, went into anaphylactic shock and almost died. My throat closed up before I could even get the words, "I got stung" out of my mouth. I also never had any problems with band-aids, but developed an allergy after having a central line taped to my chest every day for 3 months. Now, if I put on a band-aid, I get hives immediately. As was explained to me by my allergist, in many people, each exposure to something increases the odds that they will become allergic to it. It's a common misconception that all allergies are present at birth.

By the way, to all those folks who think epi-pens automatically solve the problem: they don't. They're designed to give you some time to haul a$$ to the ER, but they don't always work, especially in severe peanut allergies.


220 posted on 01/04/2005 4:28:50 PM PST by MonaMars
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