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California Storm - Washes Away New Sand
Long Beach Press Telegram ^ | Jan 4, 2004 | Kristopher Hansen

Posted on 01/04/2005 3:49:18 AM PST by gortklattu

Southern California was pounded by yet another storm Sunday and early Monday that left roadways flooded, motorists stranded due to snow, homes without power and many wondering when it will all end.

In the Tejon Pass on Interstate 5 north of Los Angeles, more than 2 feet of snow closed the state's major north-south highway for most of Monday, stranding thousands of unprepared motorists.

Since July 1, Long Beach has received nearly 11 inches of rain, well above the 4-inch average for this time of year. Annual rainfall in the city, measured between July 1 and June 30, is 14 inches.

Downtown Los Angeles has already received nearly 14 inches, about the same amount it receives during an average year, while snowfall in the Sierra Nevada mountains near Lake Tahoe topped 9 feet over the weekend.

Heavy rain in Long Beach left enough standing water on the southbound 710 to stall several vehicles attempting to pass through. CHP officers responded to the scene at Pacific Coast Highway about 12:30 a.m. and found several lanes flooded, said California Highway Patrol Officer Vince Ramirez.

North of Los Angeles, about 2 feet of snow shut down Interstate 5 at Tejon Pass, stranding some travelers, and the CHP said the state's main north-south highway was expected to stay closed there all Monday. The elevation at the pass is about 4,200 feet.

In Goleta, near Santa Barbara, surging high tides washed away tons of sand deposited last year as part of a $2 million beach-preservation project.

Most of the 80,000 cubic yards of sand used to curb erosion has been swept away, leaving a jagged wall of sand and dirt and forcing officials to close part of the coastline as a safety precaution.

(Excerpt) Read more at presstelegram.com ...


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The beach had NO sand for a reason. What a waste of money.
1 posted on 01/04/2005 3:49:18 AM PST by gortklattu
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"The beach had NO sand for a reason. What a waste of money."

Yes, but to the liberals in areas like Goleta, sand, taxpayer dollars, it's all the same. Just go get more and who cares who has to pay.

2 posted on 01/04/2005 3:53:12 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: gortklattu; Enterprise

Unlike conservatives, liberals understand what it takes to keep our environment safe.


3 posted on 01/04/2005 4:03:55 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: gortklattu; Enterprise

As the present story shows.


4 posted on 01/04/2005 4:05:02 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: gortklattu

OTOH, Barbra Streisand's house now has a Tiajuana zip code...


5 posted on 01/04/2005 4:05:17 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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Unlike conservatives, liberals understand what it takes to keep our environment safe.
I'll assume you forgot the </Sarcasm> tag.
6 posted on 01/04/2005 4:06:00 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: gortklattu
In Goleta, near Santa Barbara, surging high tides washed away tons of sand deposited last year as part of a $2 million beach-preservation project.
GWB's fault.
7 posted on 01/04/2005 4:06:44 AM PST by oh8eleven
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To: bikepacker67

See my post #4! (grin)


8 posted on 01/04/2005 4:09:10 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: gortklattu

Bush's fault, Dachell is "sanded"

Sorry, too big a target.


9 posted on 01/04/2005 4:10:17 AM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Somewhere in that story is a concern for property values, I'll bet.....


10 posted on 01/04/2005 4:40:38 AM PST by gortklattu (As the preacher in Blazing Saddles said "You're on your own.")
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Somewhere in that story is a concern for property values, I'll bet.....

But not the taxpayers who pay for all this...beach replenishment.

Snort.

11 posted on 01/04/2005 4:41:44 AM PST by mewzilla
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Yep, you can bet that the values of the properties of "the correct sort of people" are somewhere behind all of that sand-throwing.

But, you know, it occurs to me that re-arranging sand on the beaches of California is something akin to re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

12 posted on 01/04/2005 4:49:44 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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Won't get any argument from me. But then I'd never be dumb enough to build my house upon the sand.


13 posted on 01/04/2005 4:50:59 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: snarks_when_bored

Massively expensive sand replenishment projects (that often are completely destroyed in one storm) are common all along the East Coast as well.

They're generally vigorously opposed by environmentalists and supported by business interests.


14 posted on 01/04/2005 5:02:16 AM PST by Strategerist
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I've heard that the beach at Avalon (Catalina Island) was made of imported sand. It's not a surf zone and the sand is still there.

The original article on this thread had stories about some traffic deaths, from a woman being killed by an SUV to some guy who ran across a freeway....to the fourth lane.


15 posted on 01/04/2005 5:11:36 AM PST by gortklattu (As the preacher in Blazing Saddles said "You're on your own.")
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To: Strategerist

Interesting. What's your take on this California boondoggle?


16 posted on 01/04/2005 5:14:45 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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Interesting to note that of the three accidents reported, two did not mention the make, model or color of the vehicles involved, but the dreaded SUV was singled out for individual mention.


17 posted on 01/04/2005 6:11:15 AM PST by Fog Nozzle
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To: snarks_when_bored

from earlier: Wed, Dec. 22, 2004

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/10475791.htm?1c

GOLETA, Calif. (AP) - Two sides in the fight against Goleta Beach erosion have drawn a line in the sand.

On one side are those who favor artificial barriers to stave off the gnawing sea. The other side supports "managed retreat," in which structures, underground utilities and grass are moved or removed so the shoreline can recede as nature dictates.

Beachside Bar Cafe owner Dave Hardy has had a front row seat to winter storms for 20 years.

"The community doesn't understand how close it is to being washed away," he said.

Goleta Beach is the most popular of 23 parks managed by Santa Barbara County. It already has erosion-controlling barriers along the eastern flank and rock barriers in the west.

In October 2003, crews widened the beach by importing sand in an experimental, $2 million attempt to reduce erosion. The "beach nourishment" program involved moving nearly 80,000 cubic yards of sand dredged from the Santa Barbara waterfront.

"We had one set of funding," said Kevin Ready, executive director of Beach Erosion Authority for Clean Oceans and Nourishment. "We'd gladly do it more often. That doesn't come around every year."

Recently, an 18-member county advisory group convened by Supervisor Susan Rose failed to reach a decision on the erosion problem. The group is expected to meet against in February.

"Both sides have really valid concerns," Rose assistant Rachel Couch said. "This park is really important to people. That is where everyone can agree."

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18 posted on 01/04/2005 6:47:54 AM PST by gortklattu (As the preacher in Blazing Saddles said "You're on your own.")
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Thanks for the link, bud.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends...like an old man sending back soup in a deli."

19 posted on 01/04/2005 7:08:33 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Hey - don't give them any ideas. Next they'll be demanding that we quit being stingy and replace all the sand that got washed away by the tsunami.


20 posted on 01/04/2005 10:13:23 AM PST by Enterprise
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