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To: nickcarraway

There is so much wrong with this I'm not sure where to begin.

""I think this is sort of the issue du jour," Logan said. "There has been no evidence of any voter fraud. The differences on the lists are not, in and of themselves, indication that there was.""

Maybe Logan should contact the democrats in Ohio, Jesse Jackson and John Conyers and tell them this. Evidently he didn't get the playbook or he would never have said this.

"Clark County Auditor Greg Kimsey said he thinks that 553 of the 1,005 vote-to-voter discrepancy there will be accounted for when the list of inactive voters -- those who have not participated in recent elections -- is reconciled with those who did in fact turn out in November.

But he has no plans to try to account for 452 extra poll, absentee and provisional votes.

"It would be a huge task," Kimsey said. "You are looking through 121,679 absentee ballots, affidavit envelopes and through poll books where 50,598 voters cast their ballots."

Isn't that why he is called an "auditor"? Isn't it his paid job to do this? WTH is he collecting money for these days? Turning a blind eye?

"Carolyn Diepenbrock, Snohomish County elections manager, said the deviation in her lists is 388, not the more than 1,700 as the Republican's contend.

"We believe that the majority of those 388 are poll voters who signed in the poll book but actually voted a provisional ballot," Diepenbrock said.

She said the county would likely be able to update records as early as tomorrow."

This one actually is open confession of fraud. Why are people signing a voting book (voting at the polls) when they "actually voted a provisional ballot"? Has she just admitted that there was double voting and that she was going to fix it tomorrow? When she fixes it, there will be no record of these people multiple voting.

There needs to be a federal investigation.


16 posted on 01/04/2005 1:46:29 AM PST by MissouriConservative ( Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee)
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To: MissouriConservative

We need to flush the list of registered voters, and have everyone re-register.


18 posted on 01/04/2005 1:57:30 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: MissouriConservative
I've been following this story, but much of it still doesn't make sense to me.
Can someone help me make sense of this?

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"Clark County Auditor Greg Kimsey said he thinks that 553 of the 1,005 vote-to-voter discrepancy there will be accounted for when the list of inactive voters -- those who have not participated in recent elections -- is reconciled with those who did in fact turn out in November.

What the heck does that mean? The list of POTENTIAL voters has no bearing on the number of voters who actually participated. The dicrepancy is between voters who showed up vs. the number of ballots in the final count...more ballots than voters. Kimsey is comparing apples & oranges. Right?

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"We believe that the majority of those 388 are poll voters who signed in the poll book but actually voted a provisional ballot," Diepenbrock said.

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I have no idea what THIS means. It might make sense if she had said there are provisional voters whose ballot was eventually counted but they WERE NOT entered in the poll book. In that case ballots would exceed vote turnout.

But that's not what she said. They DID sign the book...and thus they are included in the vote turnout count. Her explanation seems upside down.

Am I misunderstanding what these people are saying?! Help!

34 posted on 01/04/2005 3:06:18 AM PST by Timeout (Cheese-eating surrender monkeys----Yum!)
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To: MissouriConservative
This one actually is open confession of fraud. Why are people signing a voting book (voting at the polls) when they "actually voted a provisional ballot"? Has she just admitted that there was double voting and that she was going to fix it tomorrow? When she fixes it, there will be no record of these people multiple voting.

My thoughts exactly as soon as I read it.

Provisional ballots are for people whose names don't appear in the poll books.

Why would they sign a poll book and then fill out a provisional ballot? Unless of course there was double voting (which I believe happened in Philly).

50 posted on 01/04/2005 4:33:50 AM PST by NEPA
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To: MissouriConservative
There needs to be a federal investigation.

Will getting this straightened out help to determine a winner? If they find that they have several hundred votes that cannot be not matched to voters, they still don't know which votes (dem or repub) to throw out.

I assume that the remedy that will be asked for is a revote?

51 posted on 01/04/2005 4:33:51 AM PST by Dianna
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To: MissouriConservative
There needs to be a federal investigation.

I've been saying that. The whole state is so corrupt that we have to go outside. We need to bring more national attention to this. I heard that the Wall Street Journal did an editorial on our election.

We have to keep on this, otherwise we have lost this state and our vote forever.

82 posted on 01/04/2005 8:17:35 AM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: MissouriConservative

"This one actually is open confession of fraud. Why are people signing a voting book (voting at the polls) when they "actually voted a provisional ballot"? Has she just admitted that there was double voting and that she was going to fix it tomorrow? When she fixes it, there will be no record of these people multiple voting."

This can not be allowed to happen.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


112 posted on 01/04/2005 10:14:23 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: MissouriConservative; Pride in the USA

Ping to #16


139 posted on 01/04/2005 3:39:01 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: MissouriConservative
Why are people signing a voting book (voting at the polls) when they "actually voted a provisional ballot"?

A provisional ballot is voted at the polls, and the voter usually votes one because his name is not in the book.

If the name is in the book there is no reason for a provisional ballot. Fraud for sure!

176 posted on 01/05/2005 10:18:32 PM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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