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To: Mad Dawg
It seems to me I heard God wanted us to be "sons, and if sons then heirs". And all I know about being a parent is that I want my kid to choose the Good and to do so Freely.

In my case that means acknowledging that my power over her chossing is limited. If God has given free will (to humans or angels)(and I know that's vexed) I'm just suggesting that that would seem to imply that He gave up, in some way or another, some of His power.

Even in that sense, though, time helps us understnad it. If I give my kid the responsibility of feeding the sheep, and she skips it, then there is a consequence. The sheep are hungry. But then I go out and feed them and punish my kid. When a deputy misuses his power, he's fired and the Sheriff sets things to rights. But the sheriff does have to fix what the deputy messed up.

You have set up the suggestion that man has some free will to chose God independently .

If as you have posited God has given up some of his power... it would be to what end? Seeing no one has the ability to make choices .

Does man have free will? Does God decide to intentionally not know all the choices men will make?

DOES GOD HAVE FREE WILL?

424 posted on 01/06/2005 7:06:34 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
You have set up the suggestion that man has some free will to chose God independently .
Yes, the SUGGESTION, for consideration of the implications. But you said:
Your honored free will is not quite as "free" as you propose .
which assumes a great deal about what I propose that isn't in anything I say.

As far as I'm concerned you are a bully AND you bore false witness about me. I was having a polite and enjoyable (at least to me)discussion with stuartcr, and along came another one of those theological bullies. Life is too short to deal with people who think the way to serve the God of Love is to push people around and who evidently don't know the difference between discussion and debate. God bless.

425 posted on 01/06/2005 7:18:14 PM PST by Mad Dawg (My P226 wants to teach you what SIGnify means ...)
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