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To: stuartcr
With reference to religion, I don't see how you can say that people accept things as they are. For some examples; how can Muslims believe that God wants them to kill for Him? That is just something written in a book, is this as things are. Or how can Christians believe in resurrection? Coming back from the dead is not as things are.Well, of course I don't mean that EVERY religion is about things as they are.

Feelings and opinions are facts, or events or somesuch -- in the sense that they occur, that they are part of "things as they are (or seem)". I can say,"Yesterday I felt unhappy, and the day before I thought Osama is a scoundrel." That's the way things are.

Or maybe it's a question about "accept". I would say that "acceptance" involves accepting my notions and the way they influence my behavior as part of how things are -- and Osama's notions and the way they affect his behavior. To me "accept" and "approve" are not synonyms.

As to resurrection, I've never seen Moscow, I've read in books that it's really there. I reckon it is. I've never seen that Bristlecone Pine which is supposedly the oldest tree in the world, but I reckon it's there.

Nowhere is resurrection described as something that happens often. (Asteroids don't strike the earth too often, but I accept that possibility.) It's pretty much going to have to be a belief or disbelief issue, isn't it? Sources credible to me say they saw it.

Does accepting things as they are imply that they will always be this way? Maybe one aspect of things as they are is that they won't always be this way. Maybe one day there will be a whole mess of resurrections.

I'm not trying to be cute. I'm looking at the phrases "things as they are", "things as they seem", and at what it means to "accept" them.

395 posted on 01/06/2005 8:12:54 AM PST by Mad Dawg (My P226 wants to teach you what SIGnify means ...)
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To: Mad Dawg

Yes, there are always exceptions and maybes...this is one of the reasons for my thinking that many things are relative. Some things are verifiable, some not. As we both agree, people have differing opinions.


397 posted on 01/06/2005 8:34:38 AM PST by stuartcr
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