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To: kidkosmic1
I've seen some blatant eisegesis in my time. That one ranks right up there.

Can't wait to hear your explanation of Eph 1:4, Rom 8:29-30, 1 Peter 1:20, 2 Tim 1:9, especially since the term "before the foundation of the world" is used, requiring (even under your twisting the meaning of "the world") God's foreknowledge.

351 posted on 01/04/2005 8:10:43 PM PST by Frumanchu (I fear the sanctions of the Mediator far above the sanctions of the moderator...)
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To: Frumanchu

Blah, blah--Big Words. God said the world as created was "very good," not corrupt. Not in need of redemption or salvation. Agree or disagree?

Ephesians 1
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

We were chosen to be holy and without blame before him in love before the foundation of the world. That's what Ephesians 1:4 says, no?

Remember when the Bible said Adam and Eve were naked without shame? Men were created Holy (in God's own image). Men, in the original pre-sin world were created holy and without blame.

Uh, oh. Why did you use 1 Peter 20 as part of your argument?

1 Peter
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Christ was granted ministerial, priestly, and superior authority before the world was created. I agree with Peter! I also agree that Christ was revealed (manifest) as Savior and Lord in these last times!


354 posted on 01/04/2005 8:35:35 PM PST by kidkosmic1 (www.InterviewwithGod.com)
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