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Data on Firearms and Violence Too Weak to Settle Policy Debates
The national Academies of science ^ | Dec. 16, 2004

Posted on 01/02/2005 5:33:26 PM PST by bad company

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For years all they have been doing is devising studies and procuring information in a manner that supports the anti-gun agenda. (ie; compiling all the people killed with guns but not differentiating between people killed while commiting a crime and others) I won't hold my breath but it would be nice to see something resembling the scientific method (as per sir Francic Bacon) used.
1 posted on 01/02/2005 5:33:26 PM PST by bad company
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To: bad company

Hiddy Ho.......BC..


2 posted on 01/02/2005 5:37:11 PM PST by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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Someone should send those Poindexters a few copies of John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime."


3 posted on 01/02/2005 5:39:29 PM PST by Prime Choice (No...my powers can only be used for Good.)
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Hi kiddo! Here I am still bangign that RKBA drum.


4 posted on 01/02/2005 5:39:59 PM PST by bad company (a conservative bases his politics on his morals,a lib bases his morals on his politics)
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5 posted on 01/02/2005 5:41:17 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 125,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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Pssst! Pssst! Ban crime, you IDIOTS!! ooops


6 posted on 01/02/2005 5:43:05 PM PST by Waco
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To: Prime Choice
Someone should send those Poindexters a few copies of John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime."

That was just a start. We need more studies that compile information and draw a conclusion from the data, (like Lotts book) instead of all these studies that start with a conclusion and gather evidence to support it.

7 posted on 01/02/2005 5:44:17 PM PST by bad company (a conservative bases his politics on his morals,a lib bases his morals on his politics)
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To: bad company
What a HUGE pantload. Please send these jackasses this Armed and Secure link.
8 posted on 01/02/2005 5:44:51 PM PST by lodwick
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Ah yes, more government research is needed to tell us
that "...Shall not be infringed." has no meaning.


9 posted on 01/02/2005 5:46:31 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Not a question of data.

Do we trust a government who doesn't trust us with guns?


10 posted on 01/02/2005 5:47:08 PM PST by secretagent
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There is no credible evidence that "right-to-carry" laws, which allow qualified adults to carry concealed handguns, either decrease or increase violent crime. To date, 34 states have enacted these laws.

Excuse me, but 34 states have instituted "right to carry" laws yet not one of them has reported an increase in crime.

11 posted on 01/02/2005 5:48:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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There are few things I despise more than dishonest scientists and/or scholars. This article is a prime example.
12 posted on 01/02/2005 5:50:55 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (Negotiations are the heroin of Westerners addicted to self-delusion.)
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To: Prime Choice
Absolutely.

Another good one is Guns and Violence: The English Experience, on the increase in gun crime in the UK after guns were banned (duh).

13 posted on 01/02/2005 5:50:59 PM PST by armed_and_ready
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I have nothing to contribute to the scientific study except these words "BACK OFF AND LEAVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT ALONE!"

Crime statistics and firearm ownership statistics have little correlation to each other except a firearm is occasionally used in a crime and criminals care little about gun laws.


14 posted on 01/02/2005 5:53:55 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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There are few things I despise more than dishonest scientists and/or scholars. This article is a prime example.

It is nice that after 40 years of biased studies that someone finnaly realizes that they still don't know jack.

15 posted on 01/02/2005 5:55:33 PM PST by bad company (a conservative bases his politics on his morals,a lib bases his morals on his politics)
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The article is a moot point.

The 2cnd Amendment wasn't contigent on statistics, good or bad.


16 posted on 01/02/2005 5:57:48 PM PST by umgud
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To: bad company
See here also
17 posted on 01/02/2005 5:57:48 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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The 2cnd Amendment wasn't contigent on statistics, good or bad.

True, but public perception can dictate how difficult the legal/legislative battle is over the 2nd.

18 posted on 01/02/2005 6:01:35 PM PST by bad company (a conservative bases his politics on his morals,a lib bases his morals on his politics)
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Another good one is Guns and Violence: The English Experience, on the increase in gun crime in the UK after guns were banned...

So taken as a friendly amendment. Thanks!

19 posted on 01/02/2005 6:19:12 PM PST by Prime Choice (No...my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: bad company

We need to remember the only requirement for employment at the Brady Center, the Million Moron March, the Violence Policy Center, and the other gun control advocacy grous is being a damned liar.


20 posted on 01/02/2005 6:24:50 PM PST by punster
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