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To: dervish

BTW--welcome to FR. I could swear we've spoken before...


95 posted on 01/03/2005 5:20:39 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
You said: Because I don't see how the US is going to be able to continue its support for Israel without Jewish leadership--and the few conservative US Jews seem more upset about Buchanan than they ever were about Arafat.

I answered: It is your position -- that Jewish influence, not US interest, controls US policy -- that suggests anti-Jewish prejudice

Then you said: The US supports Israel for many reasons. I don't believe that the neocons have that much influence--to make the US give support where it does not already have an interest. However, that may not always be so. I fear that Israel will be in for harder times in the years to come, with what I see emerging among the Euros and the US Dems--and it'd sure help if the liberal US Jews would get on board!

Nope. Never said any such thing. YOU can say it, if you like, and I guess you do like. I am getting used, to having silly statements such as yours put in my mouth (or keyboard), however, by those anxious to holler "antisemite" at any breath of criticism.

So you agree that US support of Israel now is in the US interest. Great. Me too. So in your first statement you were talking about a future need for US Jewish support when at some later hypothetical juncture the US interests diverge from Israel’s like the way they have often diverged from other democracies?

When those interests diverge obviously the US should go with their own interests. I would hate to see undue influence by Jews of any stripe effect legitimate US interests. Wouldn’t you?

It is not helpful to the interest of Israel to take such rhetorical positions with allies--but I see such behavior over and over in this forum. Sometimes I suspect it comes from trolls...

I guess you are implying here that I am a troll. Why? Is that defined as someone who coherently questions your position? And may I ask with who are you “allies”? I am in favor of US interests on all issues.

Thanks for the welcome.

101 posted on 01/03/2005 6:00:35 PM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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