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To: dervish
re: So the US supports Israel because Jews, in your mind "Neoconservatives" push such support? )))

The US supports Israel for many reasons. I don't believe that the neocons have that much influence--to make the US give support where it does not already have an interest. However, that may not always be so. I fear that Israel will be in for harder times in the years to come, with what I see emerging among the Euros and the US Dems--and it'd sure help if the liberal US Jews would get on board!

re: It is your position -- that Jewish influence, not US interest, controls US policy -- that suggests anti-Jewish prejudice)))

Nope. Never said any such thing. YOU can say it, if you like, and I guess you do like. I am getting used, to having silly statements such as yours put in my mouth (or keyboard), however, by those anxious to holler "antisemite" at any breath of criticism.

It is not helpful to the interest of Israel to take such rhetorical positions with allies--but I see such behavior over and over in this forum. Sometimes I suspect it comes from trolls...

As to your assertion that the Jewish Neocons control the press (another example of claimed Jewish domination in this thread), try the American Spectator and Buchanan’s rag. You might also try reading the National Review. I don’t think Ramesh Ponnuru or William Buckley could be called socially liberal.)))

Once again, I said no such thing. And, no matter how much it would delight you, I will not. I am patient, since this sort of thing is predictable as taxes. Now, wouldn't you like for me to have said such an extreme thing? That'd make you such a hero, such a savior, now, wouldn't it? A regular Nazi-slayer. And so much easier than facing down a real problem, like how to get the liberal US Jews to stop supporting anti-Israel candidates.

A small cadre of boring writers who are children of the Partisan Review control both the Weekly Standard and the National Review. Frum is the editor of NRO--who was kicked out of the WH for disloyalty. I'm bored to death with them, and irritated at their haughtiness (like dumping Ann Coulter so precipitously, and just a few days after 9/11) and intellectual insularity. Whatever that means, that's what it means. See if it gets you any medals from Weisenthal.

93 posted on 01/03/2005 5:11:55 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
A small cadre of boring writers who are children of the Partisan Review control both the Weekly Standard and the National Review. Frum is the editor of NRO--who was kicked out of the WH for disloyalty.<<

What do you base this on? Frum has been nothing but complimentary to Bush. Where is the disloyalty?

106 posted on 01/03/2005 7:53:18 PM PST by Honestfreedom
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