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Neocons want someone else blamed for their Iraqi war
www.krtdirect.com ^ | Jan. 02, 2005 | JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY

Posted on 01/02/2005 2:58:07 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: churchillbuff

You just never stop, do you?

Your anti-semitism is so evident to anyone who reads your posts. You're a disgrace.


41 posted on 01/02/2005 5:58:09 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

You're Semitism is readily apparent after taking Churchill to the woodshed. Is that so bad? A little prejudice in the form of free speech doesn't bother me. Trying to stifle free speech by accusations of behavior problems does bother me.


42 posted on 01/02/2005 6:17:02 PM PST by meenie
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To: Peach
Your anti-semitism"""

Huh? Are you one of those jerks who uses the word "antisemite" -- or "racist" -- to slur anyone you disagree with? Guess you got the idea from Jesse Jackson. Like you, when he encounters an argument he can't refute, he yells, "racist!"

43 posted on 01/02/2005 7:35:39 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: meenie

Have you been following churchie's posts? I have and unless you have read his posts for the last year, I will tell you that you don't know what you're talking about.

He is the Neville Chamberlain of Free Republic. That's just a hint so you'll know who you are defending.


44 posted on 01/02/2005 7:36:19 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach; meenie

Your anti-semitism"""
Huh? Are you one of those jerks who uses the word "antisemite" -- or "racist" -- to slur anyone you disagree with? Guess you got the idea from Jesse Jackson. Like you, when he encounters an argument he can't refute, he yells, "racist!"


45 posted on 01/02/2005 7:36:55 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: meenie; Peach

Why would Peach call me "antisemite" for opposing the Iraq invasion? I don't get it - - except that it's an easy slur for lugheads like him to use, to try to shut someone up. It's the Jesse Jackson school of debate.


46 posted on 01/02/2005 7:39:01 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

You are well on record, Neville, of trying to blame our support for Israel and the Jews for nearly everything.

Your record of appeasement is also well noted. And every freeper who has been paying attention knows it.


47 posted on 01/02/2005 7:49:16 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach; meenie
You are well on record, Neville, of trying to blame our support for Israel and the Jews for nearly everything.""

That's a lie. You remind me of Maxine Waters, who called President Bush a "racist" because he disagreed with her on policy issues. I disagree with you on the wisdom of invading Iraq, and you call me an "antisemite" That's a total nonsequitor -- meaning, there's no connection between "semitism" and the Iraq issue. do you also say I'm "antisemite" because I disagree with your on abortion (you're pro-abortion, from what I've been able to tell). I probably believe in bigger tax cuts than you. Does that also make me an "antisemite"? Anybody who disagrees with Peach is "antisemite" !!!! You and Jesse and Maxine really ought to get together, you all use the same kind of hate-filled rhetoric against people who disagree with you.

48 posted on 01/02/2005 7:55:07 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Peach; meenie
You are well on record, Neville, of trying to blame our support for Israel and the Jews for nearly everything."""

You're a low-life liar. You can't give one example of me ever blaming anything on "our support for Israql and the Jews." I've been posting here for 6 years and never have I suggested anything of the sort. You can't provide one example, because I don't hold those views - it would be like me posting a pro-abortion comment; you can't find one of those, either - - - you pitiful sleaze-slinger.

49 posted on 01/02/2005 8:02:55 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

I stand by post #47 and anyone reviewing your posting history can see the truth.


50 posted on 01/02/2005 8:03:53 PM PST by Peach
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To: churchillbuff

Neville - Freepers have been accusing you of being an anti-semite for as long as I can remember. And for good reason.

And as I said, one needs only review your posting history. Go snivel in a corner. I'm finished with you until I see you post more lies about Iraq.


51 posted on 01/02/2005 8:06:53 PM PST by Peach
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To: Soul Seeker; hotsteppa
Both of you are right on the money!

It seems the "Neocons" have jumped ship when the times got hard. Well, the "Neocons" aren't why we are at war, and The Bush Admin isn't controlled by the "Neocons". The Bush admin is working ins OUR interest, and not a few high-brow media desk jockeys.

52 posted on 01/02/2005 8:26:51 PM PST by KoRn
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To: KoRn
ins=in .... not referring to the INS lol
53 posted on 01/02/2005 8:27:40 PM PST by KoRn
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To: upchuck
A neocon is a 'former' liberal democrat who split with the left only on national defense and foreign policy issues. Since some of the best known neocons happen to be Jewish, to criticize the neocon movement means being accused of being antisemitic.
54 posted on 01/03/2005 12:17:48 AM PST by jaykay
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To: Honestfreedom
re:The idea of a monolithic Israel based group of Jews who run American policy for Israel's benefit is just old fashioned Jew baiting. )))

You're the one with the BS cliches.

I didn't use the term "Israel based" which these NYC urbans clearly are not. Like I said, criticize a neo and get called an antisemite... They are pro-Israel, as am I, but they were not much use in helping with the 76% of US Jews who voted for the anti-Israel presidential candidate. They also got very carried away with the ideals of "hegemony" that landed us a powerful new Al Quaeda enemy in the Balkans. Don't believe me? Google up "neoconservative balkans" and enjoy the roller coaster. It's quite the eye-opener. Read how they joined up with Clintonites to bomb Kosovo. Wesley Clark. Maddie Albright. McVain. Biden.

But my other objection to the neo intellirati is that they are simply boring. They run all the conservative publishing outlets, and they all sound just alike--prissily pretentious, self-adoring Ivy League, jazz-bar latte suckups. I'm tired to death of them and all their cautious prettiness. They won't give writers like Ann Coulter any ink.

I want some new writers to write some new things. I'm sick of the Kristol/Krauthammer bunch.

55 posted on 01/03/2005 6:57:32 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: West Coast Conservative
I was once accused of being a neo-con. Here's the paragraph from your neo-con wiki reference that I would agree with:
"Also particularly galvanizing to the movement was George H.W. Bush and Colin Powell's decision to leave Saddam Hussein in power and what neoconservatives viewed as a betrayal of the Iraqi Kurds. Neoconservatives were also members of the blue team, which argued for a confrontational policy toward the People's Republic of China and strong military and diplomatic support for Taiwan. Early in the George W. Bush administration, neoconservatives were particularly upset by Bush's non-confrontational policy toward the PRC and Russia and what they perceived as Bush's insufficient support of Israel, and most neoconservatives perceived Bush's foreign policies to be not substantially different from the policies of Clinton. Following the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon, however, the influence of neoconservatism in the Bush administration appears to have increased. In contrast with earlier writings that emphasized the danger from a strong Russia and the PRC, the focus of neoconservatives shifted from Communism to the Middle East and global terrorism."

However, reading further, I am a cross between an ideolistic conservative (75%) and neo-con(20%) and Libertarian (5%).

56 posted on 01/03/2005 7:26:35 AM PST by Sensei Ern
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To: Sensei Ern

One thing I totally disagree with the posted article...We need a hard a$$ like Rumsfeld running our military. His job isn't to clean up the mess. His job is to send in the troops to make the mess.

If anyone should go, it should be the state department head...oh, wait...he's gone in a short time.

Don't panic people. THings will get straight soon.


57 posted on 01/03/2005 7:29:10 AM PST by Sensei Ern
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To: Mamzelle

You assume that they are some monolithic group acting in concert. That alone makes your analysis nonsense.


58 posted on 01/03/2005 8:36:13 AM PST by Honestfreedom
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To: Honestfreedom
Luckily, the brevity of your idiotic comment makes a response equally as brief.

Who're the "they" in your response? I drew a distinction between what is claimed to be neoconservatism in the WH admin and the present vapid, dreary twerps who have claimed literati status. It is a rare conservative who can endure Kristol's continued haughtiness--and he is the premier neo "intellectual".

The children (and neighborhood children) of Irving the Wise and Midge the Judge and Gertrude the Unintelligible dominate the FEW conservative outlets that exist--Weekly Standard, NR--

What "acting" they do in concert is to bore and keep on boring with perfect immunity to a market that is tired of them--and writers like Ann Coulter send these little princelings of publishing running for Mumsey and the inhaler...

59 posted on 01/03/2005 8:54:21 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: upchuck

"Neocon" is a polite way to say "Jew" in liberal circles.


60 posted on 01/03/2005 8:57:03 AM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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