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To: Lucky Dog
… Gravity is subject to the identical criticism [that it is both a theory and a fact] … physicists regard gravity as both a fact and a theory.

You are in error, sir:

“Gravity” is an observed effect or phenomenon that masses appear to be attracted to each other with the strength of that attraction varying as a function of distance. Newton’s and/or Einstein’s theories attempted to mathematically predict results of this effect, or fact, as well as explain how it acted in Einstein’s case. No one of whom I am aware confuses the fact or phenomenon of “gravity” with a theory of how or why it works. [Neither Newton’s nor Einstein’s theories is called “gravity” or even the “the theory of gravity” by scientists or the lay public… the absolute closest I could find was a reference to “Newton’s Theory of Universal Gravitation” in some lay literature… Einstein’s is the “Theory of Relativity.”] Therefore, your assertion that “gravity” is considered both a fact and theory is a mistaken opinion.

Bad luck, you contradicted something that I didn't say. Read my posts more carefully. I said a theory of gravity had only recently been proposed, not by Newton.

815 posted on 01/07/2005 11:25:20 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite
Gravity is subject to the identical criticism [that it is both a theory and a fact] … physicists regard gravity as both a fact and a theory…

Bad luck, you contradicted something that I didn't say. Read my posts more carefully. I said a theory of gravity had only recently been proposed, not by Newton.


Sorry, please forgive my misunderstanding. I am afraid I missed your point on this post. I quoted you directly in the portion you had bold faced.

Perhaps, you could refer me to a cite wherein the word "gravity," meaning the phenomenon of apparent attraction of masses, is referenced meaning, in addition to the phenomenon, an explanation of how it works and calling it the “theory of gravity.” I am aware of certain postulations of “unified field theory” or cosmological theory wherein “gravity,” the observed phenomenon, is proposed to be the result of extensions of quantum theory. However, I have never read of nor heard of this or any other postulations referred to only as “gravity” using this single word, or the “theory of gravity.” However, I am more than willing to stand corrected if you can send me the reference.
822 posted on 01/07/2005 11:46:34 AM PST by Lucky Dog
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