[BikerNYC]

You are in error, sir:

Nope. You are. You admit yourself that gravity is both a fact and a theory. The remark was made that gravity was "subject" to the same criticism, that it is, as is evolution, both fact and theory.

Your assertion that Newton's Theory of Universal Gravitation and Einstein's Theory of General Relativity are not really theories of gravity because of the name the author's put on their papers is completely ludicrous. They are, most assuredly, theories of gravity.

[Dataman]

I believe the mechanism of gravity is theoretical but its effects are both observed and measurable.

Unfortunately for materialists, evolution is a theory with no observations of any aspect of the imagined mechanism and no measurability or repeatability whatsoever.

[Lucky Dog]

… Your assertion that Newton's Theory of Universal Gravitation and Einstein's Theory of General Relativity are not really theories of gravity because of the name the author's put on their papers is completely ludicrous.

You, as opposed to “Thatcherite,” (as he has not yet replied) are in error on this one, sir. I did not say that either Newton’s or Einstein’s was not a theory that predicted how gravity worked or even why… quite the contrary.

I wrote in my previous post “Gravity” is an observed effect or phenomenon. When anyone, scientist or layman, speaks of “gravity,” the reference is to this observed phenomenon and not to the theory of how it works or mathematically predicts it results.

The same observation apparently cannot be made for when one speaks of “evolution.” As has been asserted numerous times on this thread, “‘evolution’ is both a fact and a theory.” Perhaps, it is better stated as “Thatcherite” put it in an earlier post speaking of “evolution,” one word meaning two different things. The difference is a critical semantic one as “gravity” is not single word meaning two different things.

Therefore, your assertion that “gravity” is considered both a fact and theory with the implication that the word or reference is the same as a reference to “evolution” remains a mistaken opinion.

… You admit yourself that gravity is both a fact and a theory.

I am sorry. A careful review of my post reveals that I said: “Gravity” is an observed effect or phenomenon. From exactly where in this statement do you deduce that I admit that gravity is both a fact and a theory?