Perhaps calling evolutionism science is our first problem. Where has SCIENCE demonstrated by experiment that mutations produce good things for a creature or plant? All observed mutations reduce information and produce results for the organism that are detrimental. Give an example of an observed mutation that has produced positive and additive results for an organism. I see none of this on any of the websites or in the literature. It is all assumed by Darwin and by those since he wrote his notions. Hence evolution is not science but an ism and when it is attacked by others the evolutionist try to hide behind the cover of the S word SCIENCE. The worst kind of religion is one that claims its science. I am sick and tired of relgions of any stripe claiming they are science. PROVE mutations cause positive things for organisms by producing a mutation that does so through natural, not man made tinkering. If you manipulate DNA to cause a positive mutation with your MIND working to do so that's not natural mutation but artificial.