Bison Bone Discovery Turns B.C. History Upside-Down

My Telus ^ | 12-31-2004

[Ken H]

I became curious because there is a mound that is just three hundred yards from my front door. It is almost 50 ft in diameter and about twenty feet high.

A backhoe is fairly cheap to rent and would be perfect for this type of job!

[Coyoteman]

Good article, as usual. However, some of the comments which follow ("twin rows of teeth" and "it changes the history of mankind radically" and "even more doubt on the unproven theory of evolution") seem to miss the importance of this article and these finds. Following an agenda in spite of where the date lead?

But, DNA is providing major clues to population movements, and the rest of us will let the chips fall where they may! Exciting times!

[Coyoteman]

where the date lead?

Whoops. That should read:

where the data lead?

[Flavius]

There are dates here ? Cool where are the freeper match makers at...

[duznshwrnkd]

I can also see how this has the potential to throw put even more doubt on the unproven theory of evolution.

Well if if were proven I don't think they would call it a theory.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam. "As the Smithsonian article notes, it's also becoming more popular to look at boats as the means of humanity's spread." The problem for the Clovis First and Only school of non-thought is, if people came to the Americas by boat 10,000 years ago, what stopped them after that point? The obvious answer is nothing, and that destroys the cuckoo fantasyland of pristine isolation that grew from politics, analogous to (and similarly rooted) the current Edenic delusion that feeds the global warming bulldung.

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[SunkenCiv]

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[Renfield]

I've read of these too. Reports are too numerous to discount out of hand.

[Smokin' Joe]

Take your time, use a trowel, or a flat shovel held at a low angle. A backhoe could destroy far more than you recover. Take lots of pictures, and set up a grid to locate objects with.

[msdrby]

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[msdrby]

The tooth thing may seems somewhat far-fetched to some, but really it isn't *that* far from reality. In my family, it is not uncommon for the lower permanent teeth to come in before the baby teeth come out. We have always had to make a trip to the dentist to remove the baby teeth aka 'second row of teeth.'

I don't know anything about hypodentology, and I suppose the second row of teeth in question are not merely baby teeth, but it is not a crazy, off the wall concept.

[Ditter]

We think alike! LOL

[blam]

"But anyway, it would be great if Europeans got here first, if for no other reason than to see the heads exploding all across academia."

Bye, Bye Beringia

Last I saw on these, the PhD from the DNA lab said the DNA was 'European.'

[johnmilken]

"I came to that conclusion a couple years ago. The people that are presently in China are not the same people who were there as short as 6,000 years ago."

Could you elaborate on that? Who were the people in 'China' 6,000 years ago and why did you come to that conclusion?

[blam]

"However, some of the comments which follow ("twin rows of teeth" and "it changes the history of mankind radically" and "even more doubt on the unproven theory of evolution") seem to miss the importance of this article and these finds."

Have you not heard these stories/read articles about people with double-rows of teeth in the Ohio area?

[blam]

Vintage Skulls

[blam]

"Could you elaborate on that? Who were the people in 'China' 6,000 years ago and why did you come to that conclusion?"

Begin by reading this book The Tarim Mummies, then do a search on the Jomon and Ainu...and then read up on the history of the Hakka Chinese and the Koreans.

The Samurai And The Ainu

Findings by American anthropologist C. Loring Brace, University of Michigan, will surely be controversial in race conscious Japan. The eye of the predicted storm will be the Ainu, a "racially different" group of some 18,000 people now living on the northern island of Hokkaido. Pure-blooded Ainu are easy to spot: they have lighter skin, more body hair, and higher-bridged noses than most Japanese. Most Japanese tend to look down on the Ainu.

Brace has studied the skeletons of about 1,100 Japanese, Ainu, and other Asian ethnic groups and has concluded that the revered samurai of Japan are actually descendants of the Ainu, not of the Yayoi from whom most modern Japanese are descended. In fact, Brace threw more fuel on the fire with:

"Dr. Brace said this interpretation also explains why the facial features of the Japanese ruling class are so often unlike those of typical modern Japanese. The Ainu-related samurai achieved such power and prestige in medieval Japan that they intermarried with royality and nobility, passing on Jomon-Ainu blood in the upper classes, while other Japanese were primarily descended from the Yoyoi." The reactions of Japanese scientists have been muted so. One Japanese anthropologist did say to Brace," I hope you are wrong."

The Ainu and their origin have always been rather mysterious, with some people claiming that the Ainu are really Caucasian or proto-Caucasian - in other words, "white." At present, Brace's study denies this interpretation.

[Nabber]

Okay, here's one of those great Ohio Indian Mound stories, and it's true. A professor at Georgia College who used to go on digs in Ohio Indian Mounds gave me a plaster cast of what appears to be either an amulet or coin that he found in layers that were dated sometime very early AD or perhaps late BC. The original artifact was very worn, but the figure on it is clearly a familiar theme on some Roman coins, a Winged Victory. FWIW, I'd be glad to post a photo of this plaster cast (if you can instruct me how to post a photo here!)

[blam]

Then read Eden In The East: The Drowned Continent Of SE Asia, Dr Oppenheimer thinks/believes that the Sumerians, Indians (of India), Egyptians and Europeans originate from SE Asia.

James Chatters (of Kennewick Man fame) believes Kennewick Man belonged to a race of people that produced both the Caucasians and Asians of today.

[Fedora]

Cool! Thanks! :-)