Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Camden reports its 54th homicide [misleading headline]
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 1/1/2005 | Troy Graham

Posted on 01/01/2005 5:49:00 AM PST by rudy45

Camden reports its 54th homicide


A store owner shot a robber who held a knife to his wife. The 2004 total was second to the city's 60 killings in '95.



Inquirer Staff Writer

Hours before one of the most violent years ever in Camden came to a close yesterday, a store owner shot and killed a knife-wielding assailant, the city's 54th homicide of 2004.

A man walked into Camden City Wireless & Fishing Supply at 27th Street and Westfield Avenue around 12:30 p.m., grabbed the owner's wife, and held a knife to her, saying he intended to rob the store, police said.

The owner, in his 30s, pulled a handgun and told the robber to drop the knife. When the robber refused, the owner fired one shot, striking the assailant in the head, authorities said.

No one else was in the store.

The robber was declared dead at the scene. His name was withheld until police could notify his relatives. He was described as a 32-year-old whose last known address was in Philadelphia.

The identities of the store owner and his wife also were withheld while police investigated. The couple were speaking with detectives last night. Their store was closed.

No charges were filed yesterday. Authorities said that the gun was properly registered, and that the owner was permitted to have it at the store.

Even if no charges are filed, the death is considered a homicide. Included in the 54 in 2004 were four people killed by police officers.

The year was second only to 1995, when the city recorded 60 killings.


Contact staff writer Troy Graham at 856-779-3893 or tgraham@phillynews.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: armedrobbers; bang; banglist; blackcrime; camden; criminals; deadblack; guns; newjersey; nj; selfdefense; sociopaths
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last
I have a real problem with the headline. Not until you read the secondary headline do you realize that this incident is a self-defense shooting
1 posted on 01/01/2005 5:49:01 AM PST by rudy45
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: rudy45

Sounds like suicide to me.


2 posted on 01/01/2005 5:50:25 AM PST by CFW
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rudy45; bang_list
the owner fired one shot, striking the assailant in the head, authorities said.

Good shooting ma'am.

3 posted on 01/01/2005 5:53:25 AM PST by csvset
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rudy45

One shot to the head, one dead robber.

Now THAT's my idea of good gun control.


4 posted on 01/01/2005 5:56:08 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rudy45

Why is it misleading? You kill a person, it's homicide. That's the definition.


5 posted on 01/01/2005 5:58:11 AM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: csvset

D'oh! Good shooting sir!


6 posted on 01/01/2005 5:58:25 AM PST by csvset
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: rudy45
I have a real problem with the headline. Not until you read the secondary headline do you realize that this incident is a self-defense shooting

And fine gun control, one shot to the head and one dead scum bag.
7 posted on 01/01/2005 6:00:53 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (If someone says "sak", you should sak.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rudy45

Techically, it's a justifiable homicide.

But I think we know what the agenda of the writer is .................


8 posted on 01/01/2005 6:01:15 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rudy45

I wonder if the wife knew the head shot was coming, and whether she had full confidence in her husband. If so, I can imagine her leaning her head carefully in one direction, and winking at her husband for the "go ahead".

Glad it turned out okay.


9 posted on 01/01/2005 6:06:52 AM PST by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Crust ... Anti-Hillary)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rudy45
Even if no charges are filed, the death is considered a homicide

I agree, "homicide" is fraught with the inference of "unlawful homicide" i.e., murder. Better maybe, "pesticide", or "self defense with extreme prejudice".

10 posted on 01/01/2005 6:14:31 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AngrySpud

There's a lot of information that is missing. For example, was the store owner REALLY aiming at the head? Or, was he aiming at center mass, but missed but ended up hitting the head?

I'm thinking the former, because (correct me if I'm wrong) judging from my own experience at the range (not in real life thankfully), people tend to miss "low" rather than miss "high" (?)


11 posted on 01/01/2005 6:23:27 AM PST by rudy45
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick

'Definition' in which dictionary? What of murder and manslughter? These have 'technical' legalistic definitions and the use of homicide is hyperbolic and misleadingly precise. It is typical anti-gun hysteria.


12 posted on 01/01/2005 6:26:06 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dhuffman@awod.com
'Definition' in which dictionary? What of murder and manslughter? These have 'technical' legalistic definitions and the use of homicide is hyperbolic and misleadingly precise. It is typical anti-gun hysteria.

You are sounding like those who complained over the word niggardly.

13 posted on 01/01/2005 6:30:16 AM PST by PFC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: dhuffman@awod.com

Webster's unabridged. Homicide: "the killing of one human being by another." Latin roots, Homo- (man) and -cide (kill).

I think "manslughter" would be when a man slugs his daughter? Or maybe the opposite, daughter slugs man.


14 posted on 01/01/2005 6:58:24 AM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: rudy45

Nice shot man. too bad you cant take the rack have it stuffed and place it over the front door as a warning to other thieves.


15 posted on 01/01/2005 7:29:29 AM PST by sgtbono2002
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PFC

Well fsuck you. Niggardly has fine Northern European roots and I use it when appropriate. As in referring to your evident niggardly education and up-bringing.


16 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:01 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: rudy45

Its Camden. I'm surprised it wasn't 54 homocides since this start of 2005!


17 posted on 01/01/2005 7:47:05 AM PST by rbg81
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dhuffman@awod.com

If we can't use "homicide," what word would you suggest we use to mean "one person kills another person"?


18 posted on 01/01/2005 7:59:01 AM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: dhuffman@awod.com

You are correct niggardly is a perfeclty inoffensive word but some ignorant folk think those who use it are saying something else. Much like your hystrionics over the word homicide which was used correctly in this story.


19 posted on 01/01/2005 8:00:55 AM PST by PFC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: rudy45
Camden City Wireless & Fishing Supply

What the f is a "wireless & fishing supply"? Cell phones and bait shop? Anyone?

20 posted on 01/01/2005 8:16:24 AM PST by searchandrecovery (... --- ... ...---... ...---...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson