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To: Dane

Part of the "problem" is that CLinton signed a welfare reform bill that really did make huge strides in mitigating the problem. Thus the issue ceases to have much salience. I agree however with the notion that Hispanics are not coming here for welfare per se. They are coming here to work, and of course, part of the attraction of the job at far higher wages than available in Mexico, is the attendant social safety net.


473 posted on 12/31/2004 5:04:02 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Part of the "problem" is that CLinton signed a welfare reform bill that really did make huge strides in mitigating the problem. Thus the issue ceases to have much salience. I agree however with the notion that Hispanics are not coming here for welfare per se. They are coming here to work, and of course, part of the attraction of the job at far higher wages than available in Mexico, is the attendant social safety net

Uh let's get history correct, shall we, hillary clinton stated in 92 that welfare would end as we know it, bill clinton vetoed welfare reform 3 times before signing it in Aug. 96(at Dick Morris's urging).

Why should anybody believe the Clinton's about anything?

476 posted on 12/31/2004 5:08:18 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: Torie

"I agree however with the notion that Hispanics are not coming here for welfare per se"

Okay, I had about a dozen living across the street in a 800sq. ft house, before I sold and left. 3 or 4 of the men left daily, let's assume they worked. The woman and 5 kids got all the social benefits, even down to the 3 year olds ear piercing.

Here's some material on Social service costs to illegals.

Cost of illegal immigration in California estimated at nearly $9 billion (VERY INFORMATIVE!!!)
On News/Activism 12/07/2004 1:00:09 PM PST · 120 replies · 1,702+ views
North County Times ^ | 12/06/2004 | EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1296406/posts
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HHS Says Healthcare Providers Must Provide Free Translation Services
On News/Activism 10/08/2004 11:23:47 PM PDT · 20 replies · 249+ views
Pacific Legal Foundation ^ | September 2004 | Pacific Legal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1239789/posts
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Illegal Immigrants' Cost to Government Studied

By Mary Fitzgerald
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 26, 2004; Page A21


A report that found that illegal immigrants in the United States cost the federal government more than $10 billion a year -- a sum it estimated would almost triple if they were given amnesty -- has drawn criticism from immigration advocacy groups.

For its report, the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based group that advocates tougher immigration policies, used Census Bureau figures to compare the revenue that illegal immigrants contribute through taxes with the cost of government services they use. ----snip----
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33783-2004Aug25.html
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http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/s_282131.html

The high costs of low-priced produce

By Dimitri Vassilaros
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, December 12, 2004

The more you learn about illegal immigration, the less you should like it. Chances are you never cared much for it in the first place.

The Migrant Education Program gives you 897,000 more reasons to be disgusted by the stealth invasion from Mexico.

Taxpayers paid $393,600,000 last year to educate many of the roughly 900,000 eligible offspring of migrant workers in America. All of whom could be in this country illegally.

"Could," because thanks to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 1982, Plyler v. Doe, the government is not even allowed to ask parents if they are here illegally before they sign up for the government program.


Children ages 3 through 21 are entitled to a free education just because they are here. Even if the 21-year-old is married. And has children.

Services include tutorial programs, after-school extended hours, summer programs, in-home programs, health and social support services, parental involvement, advocacy, language arts and, of course, enrichment.

What? No frequent-flier miles on AeroMexico?!

The MEP "Artistas del Verano" program is "to increase the self-esteem and cultural awareness of migrant teenagers through the visual arts and academic enrichment. Participants were encouraged to study their own culture and bring to the design of the murals an image or icon to represent themselves."

The College Assistance Migrant Program is "a federally funded program designed for first-year college students from migrant and seasonal farm worker families. Pennsylvania's CAMP program is located at Penn State University. Established in 1972, CAMP has been available at Penn State since 1993. CAMP offers pre-college transition and first-year support services to help students develop the skills they need to stay in college and graduate."

High school dropouts do not fall through the cracks. They are offered alternatives, according to Suzanne E. Benchoff, director of migrant services. She oversees the implementation of the program in 30 Pennsylvania counties.

"We offer Web-based cyber schools to earn a Mexican high school diploma. They are provided with laptop computers, and our centers have high-speed DSL and T1 lines."

Ay caramba.

Apologists for illegal immigration (usually leaders of the two dominant political parties) tell you that foreigners are needed to do the work that lazy Americans will not do. snip.....


There is more if you want to see it.






486 posted on 12/31/2004 5:26:02 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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