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To: general_re
If you read my posts, you would see I said it was my recollection, and my primary interest was in just getting it right. I carry no particular brief for the 80% number, and would be delighted if it were wrong. Indeed, I did find in the last few minutes a Washington Times piece that put the estgimated number at a "mere" 25% increase from the first quarter of 2003 vis a vis the first quarter of 2004.

Whatever the number, the incentive to get into the US illegally, and get a job, any job, before the cutoff date, whatever that might be, at this point is clear and compelling as long as it appears that this aspect of the Bush plan has some prospect of passage.

Speaking of cut off dates, just how will the government determine when the illegal applying for guest worker status got his illegal job, particuarly off the books jobs? That strikes me as a rather difficult provision to administer. That strikes me as a source of litigation in fact. Lawyers that speak Spanish will be in high demand.

334 posted on 12/31/2004 12:57:45 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
If you read my posts, you would see I said it was my recollection, and my primary interest was in just getting it right.

Fair enough.

Speaking of cut off dates, just how will the government determine when the illegal applying for guest worker status got his illegal job, particuarly off the books jobs? That strikes me as a rather difficult provision to administer. That strikes me as a source of litigation in fact.

Obscenity statutes and the tax code strike me the same way, and yet I notice that they exist regardless. Since when has difficulty of administration impeded legislatures?

Lawyers that speak Spanish will be in high demand.

I knew those Berlitz people were behind this somehow ;)

337 posted on 12/31/2004 1:05:48 PM PST by general_re ("What's plausible to you is unimportant." - D'man)
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To: Torie
Speaking of cut off dates, just how will the government determine when the illegal applying for guest worker status got his illegal job, particuarly off the books jobs? That strikes me as a rather difficult provision to administer.

That's why most of the illegals legalized by the Bush plan would have to have entered illegally, taken illegal employment, and used fraudulent federal documentation to do so. The fraudulent documents and perjurious IRS forms will be necessary to prove that the other laws were properly broken by the illegal in order to qualify for Bush's legal "guest worker" status.

But...

"I don't think we ought to reward illegal behavior." President Bush, 10/13/2004

LOL!

360 posted on 12/31/2004 1:48:24 PM PST by Fatalis
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