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To: RS; Marine Inspector; fastattacksailor; broadsword; Fred Nerks
Again you overreach, I said nothing about canceling the Bill of Rights, nt even by inference. I am simply stating that being a good citizen means cooperating with the government, especially in time of war, and in light of the tactics used by a cowardly enemy.

It is because of those tactics that we have to adjust our methods and a good citizen understands that. In fact, creating a common federally-mandated ID will make life easier for everyone, except those who have something to hide, or just like to play the role of contrarian.

How does this take away freedom? Especially when you consider the circumstances we are faced with. Thumb prints at ALL entry ports, fine, we can track the movements of suspects easier.

I've always been a believer in the concept of those who live outside the law should not be allowed to hide behind it when they are caught, whether they are gangsters or Gitmo detainees.

By the way, there was nothing in my post about being in favor of the change in extradition laws, I simply stated what the issue was and you, RS, made the inference, again, on your own; I am, in fact, against it.

761 posted on 01/03/2005 9:34:23 AM PST by Former Dodger ("I can remember way back when a liberal was one who was generous with his own money." Will Rogers)
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To: Former Dodger

Your statement was
" But that was 218 years ago, and times were different. "

Am I supposed to believe that you meant something other then the laws that were set down at that time are not applicable NOW ? What DID you mean by that ?


"Thumb prints at ALL entry ports, fine, we can track the movements of suspects easier."

But thumb prints at ALL entry points are NOT applicable to citizens at this time - That is simply not the issue here as it is NOT what the law allows.

CBP is NOT authorized to track citizens movements.


"I've always been a believer in the concept of those who live outside the law should not be allowed to hide behind it when they are caught"

These ARE CITIZENS, who have not broken any laws, were not informed that they were being investigated for any possible breaking of laws, and it is reported that they were in fact LIED to by CBP who said they were pulled out on random checks.


"In fact, creating a common federally-mandated ID will make life easier for everyone."

You allready seem to have no problem with CBP agents ignoring valid documents, and subjecting targeted citizens to unwarrented delays - now you want to expand this to the interior of the country ?


765 posted on 01/03/2005 10:35:13 AM PST by RS
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