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Indonesia Needs Help, Death Toll Expected To Exceed 400,000
Drudge Report ^ | 12/30/04

Posted on 12/30/2004 10:01:15 AM PST by Keith Burwell

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To: oldbrowser

It's pretty disgusting to see those people wearing OBL shirts and taking aid from us. But, just how much aid will the people on the ground get and how much will the terrorists get?


421 posted on 12/30/2004 8:52:56 PM PST by pikecountyrepublican ("It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both. - Machiavelli)
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To: frontdeboeuf
OMG ... those pictures really show it clear ...

Are there more ?

422 posted on 12/30/2004 8:53:09 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Phantom Lord
Thank God the UN is going to hold a meeting next week to discuss how the UN can help in the relief efforts.

Well, yeah, of course. Exploitation takes time to set up.

423 posted on 12/30/2004 8:56:20 PM PST by lakey
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To: watsonfellow

I join in prayer for all of you and those you love and are missing!


424 posted on 12/30/2004 8:59:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: FBD

Nailed that one nicely, thank you. As an Australian, the Aceh situation always made me very very nervous. As 'they' say, 'tis an ill wind indeed that brings no one any good'. The natives in Papua also want to live and they are Christians, targets for islamic fundamentalists who consider them 'children of the devil' because they wear few clothes, dance and sing.
Perhaps while Indonesia has bigger problems to take care of, the Papuans can have some peace. The indigenous people of Papua don't deserve to die simply because they wear penis gourds and feathers in their hair...and sing Christian songs in pidgin english.


425 posted on 12/30/2004 9:04:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (NO TO MUSLIM IMMIGRATION. NO TO MOSQUES. NO TO IMAMS. NO TO ISLAM.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Thanks for the ping!


426 posted on 12/30/2004 9:05:04 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: topfile
We should give these people our help and prayers.

That's the point. We will give these people our help and our prayers. Because we are a good people. And we are good because the majority of Americans believe in being Christlike. Don't take my comments as those coming from a religious fanatic. What I meant in my original post is that because this country was founded the way it was we see the right and wrong of things. If we didn't imagine what we could do with the power and technolgy we have controlled for so long.

427 posted on 12/30/2004 9:20:44 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Free Scott Peterson!!! In Iraq. Wearing an "Allah is the Devil" tee shirt.)
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To: Blogger

Thank you.


428 posted on 12/30/2004 9:21:07 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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To: diamond6
Would Salvation Army be the best charity to give to re: this disaster? do they have people there?

That's who we gave to. According to their website, and according to an acquaintance of mine in Malaysia, Salvation Army is deeply involved in the relief effort.

429 posted on 12/30/2004 9:23:08 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://blog.c-pol.com?)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I read this article earlier..Drudge changed the title.


430 posted on 12/30/2004 9:24:19 PM PST by lwoodham
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To: Fred Nerks; Happy2BMe

I used to think muslims were just pissed off at everyone because they lived in that sweaty armpit of the world, the Middle-East.
But it appears that even when they live on an island paradise, they still have their turbans in a twist.

I guess...it must be the religion? ;^)


431 posted on 12/30/2004 9:31:46 PM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD
"Add cholera, dysentery, and every other plague and pestilence known to man...

That 400,000 figure is going to be LOW. "

Well, ANYTHING's possible when everything is factored in, but I interpreted the 400k number to be deaths from the flooding alone.

432 posted on 12/30/2004 9:33:05 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA

mind-boggling.


433 posted on 12/30/2004 9:38:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The nice thing about Moslem civil wars? Everybody wins.)
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To: FBD; Fred Nerks
Thank you and the rest of the Freepers for giving background on this place.

Hmm, didnt hear it anywhere else. Why could that be?

434 posted on 12/30/2004 9:45:36 PM PST by vezke
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To: Keith Burwell

Here's strange Google:

Results 1 - 10 of about 666,000 for Worst disasters. (0.24 seconds).

It shows up 666,000 hits for "WORST Disasters" That is wild, weird stuff.


435 posted on 12/30/2004 9:48:25 PM PST by pikecountyrepublican ("It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both. - Machiavelli)
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To: USF
Ping

Post # 393 pictures
436 posted on 12/30/2004 10:15:44 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: I Gig Gar
One doesn't have to be Christian in order to help others and/or NOT act like a pig on a message board.

Really? But helping someone would still be the christian thing to do, right? So you can do something christian and yet not be a christian. Fascinating.
437 posted on 12/30/2004 10:20:37 PM PST by Blowtorch
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To: FBD

The satellite pics are pretty persuasive, I guess.

I think the problem with my theory is that it assumes the government tilt toward higher initial casualties. For every country except Indonesia, I believe this is the case. For Indonesia, however, I think there country is closed enough and paranoid enough that they may try to cover up some of the damage (although the pressure behind the relief effort may blunt this).

Kinda like disasters in the Soviet Union were the opposite of this proxy. You had to multiply the death figures by 10.


438 posted on 12/30/2004 10:39:37 PM PST by TFine80
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To: superskunk

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/10294.htm


439 posted on 12/30/2004 10:49:18 PM PST by stlnative
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The oil- and gas-rich region of Aceh is located on the northern tip of Sumatra, Indonesia. Aceh has a population of 4.3 million and has historically been staunchly Islamic. On 1 January 2002, as part of a wide-ranging autonomy package that the Indonesian government hoped would appease separatists, Aceh was granted the right to adopt Islamic law.


440 posted on 12/30/2004 10:53:03 PM PST by stlnative
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