Posted on 12/30/2004 7:09:57 AM PST by 1Old Pro
| Cash aids battle against illegal guns Albany to offer rewards for those who turn in people for possessing unlawful firearms |
| By CAROL DeMARE, Staff writer First published: Thursday, December 30, 2004 |
| ALBANY -- Albany police will begin providing rewards for information leading to the arrests of suspects with illegal guns. Earlier this month, the Albany County Legislature approved a $180,837 state grant that includes $10,000 for the reward program in the city of Albany. The project will be run under Operation Impact, a state crime-fighting endeavor. "Any individual who has information that another person has an illegal handgun, if they contact the Albany Police Department and give them the information the police will follow up, and if they get a gun, (the informant) will get a reward," District Attorney Paul A. Clyne said Wednesday. Rewards could run between $100 and $200 once the firearm is seized and the suspect convicted, he said. Police will decide the amount. The program starts immediately, he said. "We will have to see what kind of a response there is," Clyne said. "If the response is great, then the money will go quickly." Operation Impact is a strategy involving crime-mapping and targeting resources, he said. "One of the objectives is to reduce gun violence and that means getting guns off the street, and people in neighborhoods may have information as to who is carrying guns, and we are willing to pay for that information," the district attorney said. Targeting illegal handguns was the hallmark of Clyne's four-year administration, which ends Friday. He campaigned on the issue of getting guns off the streets and sharply prosecuted those convicted of gun possession. (YET ALBANY'S CRIME RATE GOES UP, NOT DOWN-MY COMMENT) In 2003, only one county outside of New York City sent more people to prison for straight felony gun possession with no other charge involved than did Albany County, Clyne said. That was significantly larger Erie County, which locked up 33 felons. Albany sent 30 to prison. Incoming District Attorney David Soares also has pledged to make illegal guns one of his targets. ( SOARES WON WITH THE HELP OF A LARGE, ILLEGAL CONTRIBUTION FROM GEORGE SOROS- MY COMMENT) The district attorney's office secured the grant, and "the lion's share of the money will be spent on police overtime," Clyne said. Some funds will be used to purchase a water tank for police to test-fire illegal guns, he said. |
SOURCE URL: http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=318659
I noticed that after I posted.
I noticed that you had noticed that after I posted.
Well, I don't know about any one having illegal guns and I don't need $200 but there are some folks I'd really, really like to hassle in Albany. Can I just give the cops their names and have them start a record and go after these folks? One guy parks in my space once in a while and the other lets his dog whiz on my oak tree. What do you think?
First, this isn't about intrusive, this is conditioning the citizenery to spy on their neighbors.
Second, what is an illegal firearm, and who defines illegal?
If they get a warrant or the ok from the property owner, they do.
You greet them outside your house or through a locked screen door, never open the door to them they can then enter (opening the door is their version of you saying come in). You do not want to let them in unless they have a warrant. You can talk to them outside or through the screen and answer with yes or no. Anything having to do with how many/kinds/etc. of guns they will need to wait until a lawyer is present (better to protect yourself from a misunderstood answer or having an answer twisted against you). Answering their questions could incriminate yourself and you have the right to not do that.
Remember, if you are a law abiding citizen, then there would be no need for them to be at your door asking you questions if you did not call them.
'TIP?' What tip? We don't need no steenking tip.'
No, more like "We got a tip that you did/have...." when they really don't.
Sure, with a no-knock warrant and a SWAT team if they want to. You didn't think those tools were in any way limited to drug tips did you?
After watching the videotape of the interrogation of a 14-year-old kid who was forced/tricked/co-erced/mind-raped into giving a false confession for the murder of his younger sister when he was innocent, I would question anything and everything that came out of law enforcement. (Satellite TV - Extreme Evidence, the other night.)
Concerning the ethics of a judge who would sign a warrant for search and seizure based on a paid-for 'tip,' I would say the judge didn't have any. And even less for the idiot LEO who would have the stupidity to serve the warrant.
So what your saying is you would let them come in and look around your house. Would you let them check your gun safe? What happens if you violate one small storage ordinance in your state.
Say you don’t have a few cartridges not in compliance with the type of storage case that is required and its within 25ft of your fire place. Or god for bid you have a black powder rifle over your fire place and you still have a few grains of powder in the spiffy powder horn hanging next it. And that violates a explosive law.
Say good by to all your stuff whether its legal or not.
Do you know your state laws on storing explosives, propellants and ammo. I think most people would be in deep stuff if the law came sniffing around.
Im not getting on your case, Im just saying.
I would not mind that if there was something to the effect that if the tip is bogus the tipper, police and judge could be fined/punished.
What if its an anonymous hotline.
Me, too, a BIG problem!! Didn't the Gestapo do the same thing in Nazi Germany???? I can hear the Albany goose-stepping brownshirts now!!!
FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.
Speaking of Albany, did they ever get around to charging Scotty "Pervs For Peace" Ritter? Or does he get a pass because he didn't have an unregistered firearm on him at the time?
Policeman SAYS he got a "tip".
Tip leads to knock on door.
Refusal leads to search warrent.
Confiscation results in trial where informant inormation is either exposed or surpressed. (or someone is paid to lie for time off for good behavior)
Albany must be a gorezone.
Scott Burger King Ritter was let off, twice.
The new DA just got elected with the help of illegal campaign cash from George Soros. It's a Left wing city.
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