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To: neverdem
She flushed her Vioxx down the toilet in September, after it was withdrawn from the market, and switched to Celebrex. But when problems surfaced with Celebrex this month, she had to stop that, too.

My dad had to take a similar course of action.
He has had arthritis since he was my age (34).

Now he is in pain most of the time and doesn't know what he should take.

3 posted on 12/29/2004 12:40:24 PM PST by Constitution Day (Free presidio9!)
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To: Constitution Day

He should take vioxx (if he has any left), celebrex, or alleve at the lower-scale of the recommended doses.

Perhaps cycle them . .. 10 days one, 10 days the next.

IN ALL PROBABILITY, this is JUNK SCIENCE. The test are for SOME people at HIGH doses.

In sum, because .01% of the people have problems 99.99% will be in pain so the drug companies can (senisbly, from their persepctive) avoid lawsuits.


6 posted on 12/29/2004 12:46:26 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Constitution Day

Convince your Dad to get back on Celebrex. Seriously. I mean, what's the big deal? An increased risk of heart attack---even though the risk remains low---versus constant pain. I'll tell you what I'd pick at his age.


9 posted on 12/29/2004 12:48:31 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Constitution Day
Now he is in pain most of the time and doesn't know what he should take.

Hmmm, my doctorate isn't in medicine (heh heh), however: live life in continous pain... or accept a slight risk of increased chance of heart attack?

I know what my choice would be, and it isn't the former. Or become long-term opiate user; studies have shown there is little overall risk with long-term moderate dose opiates, and the people taking it are perfectly functional (i.e., not off in lala-land).

17 posted on 12/29/2004 12:54:54 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (PhD, School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Constitution Day
My doctor recommended I give my teenage son aspirin for his headaches. Aspirin works great on arthritis, too. If it bothers his stomach, he can take a coated or buffered brand.

No one touts aspirin anymore because it's old news and remarkably cheap. But, it still works.
20 posted on 12/29/2004 12:55:42 PM PST by keats5
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To: Constitution Day

Take aspirin...good for inflammation, good for the heart, maybe fights cancer in the colon. Have the makers of Tylenol convinced you there is a problem? Take enteric coated aspirin. Take lots of it.


43 posted on 12/29/2004 1:35:45 PM PST by steve8714
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Now he is in pain most of the time and doesn't know what he should take.

What (if anything) is he taking right now?

44 posted on 12/29/2004 1:37:05 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Constitution Day

I am 28 and have psioratic arthritis which is hereditary and very painful, i was on Vioxx until they pulled it, i am now on Bextra but it does not help as much as the Vioxx did. While in the Navy, I was taking 2400mg a day of Motrin a day while 25mg of Vioxx took care of the pain almost completely. I am young and relatively healthy with no family history of heart disease nor of stroke, therefor have no worries of Vioxx harming me as long as I take it as recommended. tell me that it has a very slight chance of causing problems, just like anything else in this world and then back off, let ME make a decision regaurding to my life.


51 posted on 12/29/2004 2:11:23 PM PST by Docbarleypop (Navy Doc)
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