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To: Matchett-PI
Let's examine another creationoid quote you posted:
"... at no very distant date..an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world", and "the chief distinction in the intellectual powers of the two sexes is shown by man's attaining to a higher eminence, in whatever he takes up, than can a woman - whether requiring deep thought, reason or imagination, or merely the use of the senses and hands. ... We may also infer ...[that] the average of mental power in man must be above that of a woman". ~ Charles Darwin
This is from the same letter that your earlier out-of-context quote came from, and so I now present it in its context, with the part you posted shown in blue. The source is the same as the other part of this letter, in post 466, above:
Lastly, I could show fight on natural selection having done and doing more for the progress of civilization than you seem inclined to admit. Remember what risk the nations of Europe ran, not so many centuries ago of being overwhelmed by the Turks, and how ridiculous such an idea now is! The more civilised so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world. But I will write no more ...
Funny, that's only part of what you "quoted." Where's the rest? Anyway, he is speaking here of war a few centuries earlier with the Turks. And he is not speaking of genocide, or racism, or anything else that you have attributed to him.

The next part of your "quote" comes from an entirely different source, The Descent of Man, chapter 19. I can't imagine why you ran an excerpt from a letter with an excerpt from a book. Just creation "science" at its best, I suppose. Anyway, this next part of your "quote" is shown in blue:

The chief distinction in the intellectual powers of the two sexes is shewn by man's attaining to a higher eminence, in whatever he takes up, than can woman — whether requiring deep thought, reason, or imagination, or merely the use of the senses and hands. If two lists were made of the most eminent men and women in poetry, painting, sculpture, music (inclusive both of composition and performance), history, science, and philosophy, with half-a-dozen names under each subject, the two lists would not bear comparison. We may also infer, from the law of the deviation from averages, so well illustrated by Mr. Galton, in his work on 'Hereditary Genius,' that if men are capable of a decided pre-eminence over women in many subjects, the average of mental power in man must be above that of woman.
Note that qualifier, which I've underlined. It was omitted in your "quote." Could it have any significance? Yes, for later in the same chapter, Darwin says:
In order that woman should reach the same standard as man, she ought, when nearly adult, to be trained to energy and perseverance, and to have her reason and imagination exercised to the highest point; and then she would probably transmit these qualities chiefly to her adult daughters.
In other words, he attributes a great deal of the apparent superiority of men to training.

I don't have the time to track down your other "quotes." I'm confident that they're of an equal quality to those which I've already discussed. Out-of-context, meaning distorted, and even slapped together segments from different writings. All in all, not a great track record. But hey, this is creation research! Who cares about truth, accuracy, integrity, or any other human virtue?

486 posted on 01/01/2005 5:25:12 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Your complaints about "out-of-context" quotes doesn't nullify the fact that Darwin believed that some races were superior to others. Hitler, et.al., agreed with him.

In his "Descent of Man" - subtitled, The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life", he wrote of how the "lower races" will have been "eliminated" by the higher "civilized" races throughout the world.

Darwin's biggest promoter, Thomas Huxley, was a major-league racist as were people like H. F. Osborn - (very prominent American anthropologist) - who said: "The standard of intelligence of the average adult Negro is similar to that of the 11-year-old youth of _____the species_____ Homo sapiens."

And on and on, ad infinitum.

These are the same people that have the faith to believe that something can come from nothing.


488 posted on 01/01/2005 5:57:44 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Nice bit of work. I hope people appreciate that it takes more time and effort to track down and expose deceitful practice than it does to copy and paste it from cretinist sources.
491 posted on 01/01/2005 5:59:37 PM PST by VadeRetro
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