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To: Chocolate Rose
Excerpt: Posted: January 13, 2005

6:13 p.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

In comments before 7,000 people attending the General Papal Audience yesterday at the Vatican, Pope John Paul II commented on the Apocalypse, saying that the increase in violence and injustice in the world is the work of a furious Satan who doesn't have "much time left" and ultimately will be defeated.

According to a report in the Italian website AGI online, the pope said, "God and the Lamb, Christ, surrounded by the 'Council of the Crown,' are judging human history in good and evil, but showing us however the ultimate end in salvation and glory. The songs which are found in the Apocalypse and which serve to illustrate the issue of divine glory which regulates the flux, often disconcerting, of the tide of human events."

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751 posted on 01/14/2005 4:22:37 AM PST by floriduh voter (Visit www.terrisfight.org SEE TERRI'S VIDEOS AWARE AND ALERT)
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The Terri Schiavo Case
Expert: Schiavo's feeding tube likely to be removed
A noted bioethicist says courts will ultimately side with Terri Schiavo's husband and remove it.
By LISA GREENE, Times Staff Writer
Published January 14, 2005

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/01/14/Tampabay/Expert__Schiavo_s_fee.shtml


TAMPA - The law is clear on what should happen to Terri Schiavo, a noted bioethicist said Thursday: Her feeding tube should be removed.

Arthur Caplan, a bioethicist and author, predicted the tube that has kept Schiavo alive for 14 years will be taken out by the end of the year.

"That is what the courts ultimately will go to," Caplan said. "I know what they're going to decide."

Caplan said he sympathizes with the family, and that both Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and her husband, Michael Schiavo, seem to be acting with "loving motives."

"This is a bad case in the sense that you have a family torn apart," Caplan said.

Still, Caplan said, courts have consistently ruled loved ones can act as surrogates in such cases, and say what a person who can't respond would have wanted.

Those decisions also have spelled out an order in which family members are called upon: spouse, parents, siblings, other relatives.

In other words, Terri Schiavo's husband, Michael Schiavo, who says she would want the tube removed, takes precedence over her parents, who want it to stay.

The case shows the importance for everyone, young and old, to put their wishes in writing, Caplan said. People should say what treatment they would want, or who they would want to make such decisions if they no longer were able.

"If you don't like your spouse, parents, siblings or other relatives," he said jokingly, "you better write that down."

Caplan is director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, author of several books and a regular commentator on questions involving medical ethics.

In Thursday's presentation, sponsored by the University of South Florida Health Sciences Center and Tampa General Hospital, Caplan also predicted that the debate over how Americans die will shift ground over the next few years.

Before long, Caplan said, people will find themselves fighting doctors and hospitals not for the right to refuse costly medical interventions and die quietly, but for the right to receive them even when doctors think it would do little to prolong their lives.

"The next round of court cases is going to be hospitals coming in and saying, "She's 87 (and gravely ill) and you can't order us to treat.' ... I think we're going to see them flip to the other side."

Fears that hospitals and health insurers may prefer not to treat is part of the reason that the Schiavo case has become so controversial, Caplan said.

Past cases drew controversy because people feared hospitals' refusal to stop treatment, but he believes people's views have shifted.

"There's a tremendous fear of undertreatment," he said. "The cultural attitudes have changed."

Caplan laid out a history of the laws governing the right to die. As recently as the 1950s, doctors' decisions were absolute: they treated patients. Among the first to challenge such treatment were Jehovah's Witnesses, who do not believe in blood transfusions.

Gradually, that right to refuse treatment expanded until people could refuse any treatment for any reason. A series of court cases, however, limited parents' ability to refuse treatment for their children.

In 1976, Karen Ann Quinlan became the center of a right-to-life fight after her parents asked the hospital to remove her ventilator. The hospital refused. Eventually, courts ruled in favor of the parents, although Quinlan lived for several years after the ventilator was removed.


758 posted on 01/14/2005 5:16:39 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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