No! I'm shocked! Shocked that anyone would want to keep business happy. Shut them all down and send all the jobs over seas. We don't need no stinkin employers. Who cares if our economy collapses
Are you aware that that actually is the philosophy of the founder of FAIR and CIS and other anti-immigrant organizations whose propaganda is continuously posted on FR? Dr. Tanton and his ecology fascists want zero population growth, whether thru abortion or government policies. Trees are more important than jobs to theses people.
Anti-business policies have never been part of conservative philosophy.
Don't get hysterical on me. I have not (and never will) suggest that we gut our economy. I am also not a tree hugger, though quality of life issues are important to me.
There needs to be a middle ground. I have no problem with Businesses wanting to maximize their profits (as it should be), but they often look at the short term bottom line at the expense of the long term. There needs to be an honest assesement of the cost/benefit of illegal immigration. Whenever I hear business leaders speak on the issue, they ignore the social costs--which we all end up paying for. So in that respect, the taxpayer subsidizes business labor costs (wait--isn't that Socialism?). Making the issue appear to be a choice between illegal immigration and economic collapse is a false choice (and you know it).
Some types of jobs will inevitably go overseas. I just don't want to see this country turned into a cesspool to keep the lowest common denominator jobs. I am also willing to pay a little bit more for certain things if it means hiring an American vs. hiring an illegal at rock bottom wages. Maybe if lunch at Old Country Buffet (or whatever) costs $7.99 instead of $5.99, we'll have fewer lard asses in this country anyway.
While you continuously post your La Raza propaganda on Free Republic.
rbg81, I don't believe bayourod should be taken as a serious poster. It appears he attempts to find small flaws with a posters pro-enforcement post, but that is as far as he will go.
He requested my views on the important points on immigration. I made the post below (twice) and received no response.
It is entirely possible there is no logical rebuttal to my concerns, but he hasn't admitted to that either:
1. National Sovereignty - a nation is not or will not continue to be a nation if it cannot reasonable control its borders.
2. Security - if our government does not control who comes in and out of our country are we secure? Example - can any politician offer any reasonable assurance that what happened at the school in Chechnya with the terrorists will not happen here?
3. Overcrowding. This isn't 1900 anymore. I live in the DC area where almost a third of the population is foreign born. In spite of numerous new road systems (even a private toll road) the commutes continue to get worse and worse.
Recently I read in the USA today where the wait in traffic is up almost 200% nationwide. It is clear that the numbers added are by legal and illegal immigration. Domestic population growth is near zero. Standards of living may be rising, but quality of life is declining.
4.Crime. Almost one third of our federal prisoners are foreigners. Our government is simply not protecting its citizens. The crime rate by foreigners relative to their numbers is inexcusable. There should be a better screening process as to who is allow to enter and stay, but the government doesn't even know who or how many are entering.
5. Expense. I believe the Economist magazine had an article that stated the value for someone to just set foot in the US was almost $400,000. By just arriving here and tapping into the infrastructure (roads, sewage, sanitation, schools, parks, hospitals) and welfare system, someone who was in penury in their former country has attained wealth. Take the school system for one.
There is almost no native population growth, therefore most of the new schools built are to support the children of new arrivals. Think of the expense of acquiring the land, building the school, furnishing the school, supplying student materials, staffing the school, and providing buses for transportation. These are huge costs thrust on the taxpayers.
6. There are other points, but I will end with loyalty. I am skeptical of the loyalty of many of the new arrivals. Why? Look at what happens to our national soccer team when they play a team from Central America - the Central American team is not just cheered by the crowd (that would be reasonable), our team is booed and has trash thrown at them. If someone does not wonder how loyal many of these people really are, they are probably lacking an inquisitive mind.
My daughter told me about a girl with an Indian (India) background who is American and attends her school. First of all, the girl wouldn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. Second, she mentioned that her aunt was in town. When asked, "Why?" She replied that ALL of her relatives come to the US when they are expecting a child.
Many citizens' appreciation for our country is lacking. But how could those allowed to be citizens behave in that manner? US citizenship used to be a cherish possession for the freedom it represents.
I believe the US is looked at by too many people of the world today as a place that can be taken advantage of. They are probably right, but I intend to do my part to see that change. Our government should be concerned with the people that are its citizens first. When do you think the flood should be stopped 400 million, 500 million, a billion? 300 million is probably enough.