[You Dirty Rats]

Ira Mehlman, media director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, told the Cybercast News Service that Bush's proposal is, "a great plan if your objective is to destroy the middle class in the United States."

So we have one story about failure to upgrade a 14-mile fence possibly leading to an Al-Qaida nucular [sic] attack, and now this. What utter nonsense. The mass immigration in the late 1800's and early 1900's did not destroy the middle class, but I'm supposed to believe that if we don't kick people already here out, the Middle Class is doomed?

I thought Ross Perot's "giant sucking sound" was going to remove all jobs from this country. Instead, the "giant sucking sound" is all of the people moving HERE (gee, what a surprise, America is the Land of Opportunity?) and finding work. We are adding population, and our unemployment rate is the envy of the world, particularly Europe.

There is PLENTY of room in America for workers -- none for leeches. Notice how the unemployment rate fell in the 1990's once welfare reform was passed? Get a guest worker program, cut back on benefits for people able to work and illegals who aren't guest workers, and we'll do just fine.

[HiJinx]

There is PLENTY of room in America for workers -- none for leeches. Notice how the unemployment rate fell in the 1990's once welfare reform was passed? Get a guest worker program, cut back on benefits for people able to work and illegals who aren't guest workers, and we'll do just fine.

I have a question for you, then. I'm not sure I know the answer. Why is it that the pro-illegal-immigrant groups like MALDEF and LaRaza are so adamantly opposed to Arizona's Propostion 200, which is supposed to limit public benefits to illegals?

[Centurion2000]

What utter nonsense. The mass immigration in the late 1800's and early 1900's did not destroy the middle class

The diference is that those immigrants ASSIMILATED into the US culture. The current immigrants are bringing old Mexico with them.

That's a HUGE difference.

[FBD]

>"The mass immigration in the late 1800's and early 1900's did not destroy the middle class, but I'm supposed to believe that if we don't kick people already here out, the Middle Class is doomed?"<

That was about manifest destiny. The govt. was giving land stakes away to people who
WANTED TO BE CITIZENS!
Immigrants didn't come here to get on welfare, get free health care, and be a general blight on society.
AND THEY WANTED TO LEARN ENGLISH.


The illegals of today have no vested interest in this country, they are here for the goodies.

Socialist benefits will NEVER be cut back, in fact the new proposals for a guest worker program will most likely allow them to collect Social Security after only 18 months of paying into it.

Of course they can send those checks back to their country of origin, to be spent there.

Yes, this new guest worker program will bankrupt this country but good.

[junta]

That migration brought the scourge of socialism with it.