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Bush Immigration Plan Would Allegedly 'Destroy the Middle Class'
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| 29 December 2004
| Jeff Johnson
Posted on 12/29/2004 6:21:51 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: bayourod
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It's too bad some people are not participating in it, but that's their own choice."
Until the law is changed, they're called FELONS and I have no intention to participate and will do whatever I can to discourage others.
So, are you directly participating in it, rod?
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:54:53 PM PST
by
azhenfud
("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
To: Centurion2000
Actually, those immigrants of the late 1800s and early 1900s did not assimilate. They brought socialism with them and created cultural pollution. We're paying for that right now.
To: Types_with_Fist
If we have 600,000 illegals in our jails and, to make the math a little easier, 12 million illegals (the figure varies depending on who you ask, so 12 million is a nice ballpark figure) in our country, that would mean that 5% of the total illegal population is incarcerated (presumably for committing felonious offenses). That's one out of twenty.
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:55:10 PM PST
by
brianl703
(Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
To: bayourod
Globalists are like domestic expatriates.
They live in comfortable enclaves where the swarthy folks around them are cheap servants or cheap pleasure girls.
Much like you.
To: Dane
That could be an infitismally small start in trying to rebulid your credibility, IMO. My credibility? If someone like you says I have no credibility, I must have top shelf credibility.
You wanna talk about credibility Dane??
"The idea that they are going to do thorough, comprehensive background checks on all these people to make sure that we're not letting in criminals or potential terrorists is preposterous," Mehlman said. "They couldn't even do a decent background check on their own nominee for Homeland Security secretary."
BWAHAHHAHAHA!
And you bring up credibility???????
You just can't make this stuff up!
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:56:54 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
To: brianl703
Thanks. I was never good at math...:-)
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:57:05 PM PST
by
Types_with_Fist
(I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
To: Sam the Sham
The Dems would love nothing better than to watch Bush self-destruct as they watch Hillary rip into "jobs that American's won't do". This is an issue that would give them big chunks of "Jesusland" in 2008
Whew no wonder you signed up on FR on April 1st, 2004.
You like your hero, hillary, IMO, think you can make the April fool go all year long.
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:57:13 PM PST
by
Dane
(trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
To: azhenfud
Do a search and you will find that I have answered that question in the negative many times. My only interest from the economic standpoint is that I, like all Americans, benefit from a prosperous expanding economy, an increasing standard of living, and lower crime rate.
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:57:38 PM PST
by
bayourod
(The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
To: Leifur
"The idea of the U.S. of America is to welcome immigrants?"
No, the idea is to create a place where the individual is sovereign: "a country without a king, a church without a pope." That's what the founders came here for. Not to create a kind of international grab bag.
To: Sam the Sham
"They live in comfortable enclaves where the swarthy folks around them are cheap servants or cheap pleasure girls. Much like you. "I am not a cheap pleasure girl! Take it back, NOW!. Cheap...
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:59:30 PM PST
by
bayourod
(The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
To: Sam the Sham
Could be right.
That would be VERY, VERY, BAAADDD!!!
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posted on
12/29/2004 12:59:52 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: Dane
I've been both. I am neither at present. Although it's hard to say as a homeowner when you sign for a plumbing job, say, whether any illegals were used in the work.
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posted on
12/29/2004 1:00:06 PM PST
by
Yaelle
To: Joe Hadenuf
You just can't make this stuff up! Uh Joe, in your very early happy hour on the left coast(1 PM PST) you just did.
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posted on
12/29/2004 1:00:55 PM PST
by
Dane
(trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
To: henderson field
Hardly.
Socialism may have come with SOME of them, but certainly not ALL, or even a large number of them.
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posted on
12/29/2004 1:01:20 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: azhenfud
"Until the law is changed, they're called FELONS and I have no intention to participate "How do you avoid participating in the American economy? Do you live in New Zealand?
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posted on
12/29/2004 1:02:26 PM PST
by
bayourod
(The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
To: Yaelle
You could ask for proof that the workers are covered by insurance. That would be prudent, actually, because you could be opening yourself up to a lawsuit if they're not...
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posted on
12/29/2004 1:02:37 PM PST
by
brianl703
(Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
To: bayourod
"Yes, we're call Americans."
No, you are called free traitors. You are perfectly willing to turn Los Angeles into Mexico City North to destroy the standard of living of American non college educated workers to your benefit. You are perfectly willing to destroy the tax base of California between collapsing quality of life and illegals demanding social services so you can save a few bucks.
Yes. You are a traitor, a thief, and a parasite.
To: hchutch
"If they're not willing to take the job at the salaries offered, shouldn't the business owner have the option to offer the job to someone who WILL take it at that price?
"
But, there is a minimum wage law, taxes and union regs as well. Illegals will work for less than minimum wage, without witholding taxes, without benefits - BECAUSE THEY ARE ILLEGAL. If I hire a black American teenager, pay him less than minimum wage, violate OSHA, withold benefits and pull other crap, I would be in big time trouble.
So what you are saying is not that there are no Americans who would do these jobs, but that you ant to create a special serf class which is allowed to violate labor laws, taxes, minimum wage etc just so certain employers can benefit.
And it isn't just any serfs you want, it is specifically under educated backward Hispanics. Surely we could find a bunch of Chinese immigrants who would work for even less than the Mexicans if cheap labor is all you want. And if you really wanted good laborers, you'd allow mass immigration from Eastern Europe. No, what you want is a mass influx of uncultured (i.e. mostly socialist) peasants to overwhelm cities like where I live (Vegas).
Well pardon me if I poop on your party.
To: Fatalis; All
The OBL troop can stop calling anyone who dislikes the presidents immigration stance names. Unless they consider the following "Bush bashers" and part of the Buchanan clan --- Rush Limbaugh, Michael Reagan,Wm F. Buckley, Toney Blankley, etc. (I have a much longer list if anyone wants it)
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posted on
12/29/2004 1:07:07 PM PST
by
JustAnotherSavage
("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
To: american spirit
"If just one illegal robs and rapes your wife isn't that one too many?"I doubt that my first concern would be if his green card was current.
But that is a local law enforcement problem and personal security responsibility. The last thing I would do is blame President Bush.
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posted on
12/29/2004 1:07:51 PM PST
by
bayourod
(The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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