Posted on 12/29/2004 6:21:51 AM PST by Ginifer
Exactly which segment of Americans are buying "larger homes", rod?
I design homes and not one I've done in six years are for "average income" Americans, except for a replacement in a burnout case (1).
Not one home I've done in the past six years has been less than $200k.
The "people" you may be referring to have had to migrate to mobile castles in lieu of conventionally constructed homes. Would you not consider that "downward"?
"I do like the idea of being able to charge gangster scum as terrorists..... it's exactly what they are"
In Virginia, we have a law that went effect July 1 that allows local and state police officers to use immigration status as a tool against criminals. In other words--the police can detain 'em till the BICS picks 'em up.
They busted a bunch of daylaborers for loitering and 12 of 'em were already wanted by the BICS for immigration violations.
Of course, the ACLU and the other enablers were all up in arms over this.."But it's just loitering...". That's what they were charged with, BUT they could've been charged for public urination, intoxicated in public, lewdness, and several other things, but the officer was trying to be "nice" to them.
Yesterday I sent an e-mail regarding his open border policy to president@whitehouse.gov, and haven't received the usual "thank you" back by quick return e-mail. Wonder why. Has anyone else done the same with the same result?
Yours is a repugnant post. Congress has Constitutional authority over immigration and naturalization, and the exercise of that authority is nothing like a pogrom. You slur the Founders and belittle the suffering of those who endured genuine pogroms, simply to advance a political point you have trouble making on its merits.
You need to check yourself.
Would you KINDLY lay off my family?
I am not discussing the laws on legal immigration then and now. If you wish to change the legal immigration processes, tell us about it
I have nothing against your family, I'm very glad that America offered them the prospect for your family and you to prosper.
I'm just asking what do you have against new immigrants trying to prosper through hard work in America.
Every rancher I know hires the neighbors kids to do the manual labor, long before he even thinks about putting an ad in the newspaper.
Both of my girls have white collar management jobs. One of them came home on her vacation two summers ago to paint my house for us.
They didn't expect to go to college on the taxpayers tit, so they both saved most of the money needed for their classes. I paid the rest, not you or a neighbor.
Companies moving overseas? Have you heard about NAFTA and all the US manufacturers that slid down to Mexico, then Thailand and China.
Okay, start your rant about unions.
"The Open Borders Lobby is determined to create a legal supply of cheap labor. This should bother liberals, especially union workers, whose wages and living conditions would be undermined by Mexican competition subsidized by the federal government."
Why do you think Hillary is positioning herself as an immigration hawk ? She knows that without economic populism she will have nothing with which to appeal to the blue collar cultural conservative voters who voted "moral values" this year.
"Somebody wanna explain wny the law of supply and demand should not apply to employers? If Americans don't want those jobs, pay more until they do."
Precisely !
That was long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, so to speak. When those words were written, we were still trying to grow as a nation. There were still large parts of the country which were yet to be settled. There wasn't a Welfare State as we now know it here in the US. Most of all, we didn't have an entire world religion determined to either kill or convert every living, breathing American. Simply put, those words don't apply any more, at least not in the spirit in which they were inscribed.
I think it would be more appropriate to say, "send us your legal immigrants, those who have skills we need, those who are willing to learn English, assimilate into our society, and become Americans...otherwise they can stay in whatever God forsaken hellhole of a 'socialist utopia' they currently infest."
America today is not, despite the PC and idiotic rumblings of many in the media, a "nation of immigrants". I was born here, my parents were born here, their parents were born here, and so on, going back about 150 years. We're a nation that used to be a melting pot, but is now becoming Balkanized at an alarming rate. You Europeans know how well that has worked, eh?
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Bay ran Pat's Presidential campaigns. The webmaster is a former Buchanan aide. Tancredo seems to be latching on to that organization. He's going atfer conservatives like Chris Cannon in Utah (who just happened to piece together the seedy background of John Tanton take a look: http://chriscannon.house.gov/press2004/march24.htm - not that it'll matter).
Hey, he'll raise a lot of for that... pandering to hysteria over this issue has made some folks a lot of money.
Uh no, Pat Buchanan has been speculated many times as being "deep throat" to Woodward/Bernstein for a third rate burglary(I am more than willing to discuss how the liberal media brought down Nixon on another thread) and was fired by Reagan.
And now Buchanan gets his paycheck to be the conservative patsy on a liberal netowrk(MSNBC).
Pat is a beltway prostitute, never worked in flyover country, etc.etc.
"I design homes and not one I've done in six years are for "average income" Americans, except for a replacement in a burnout case (1).
Not one home I've done in the past six years has been less than $200k."
Around here, even a townhouse in a "crime ridden neighborhood" will cost $220K. The average income is also similarly high.
Were I to base my ideas of what sort of jobs Americans do and do not do on this (skewed) area, yes, I would have to come to the conclusion that Americans don't want to do "those sorts of jobs".
I might also come to the conclusion, based on what I see getting built around here, that Americans are indeed moving to larger houses.
But I know full well that Northern Virginia isn't like the rest of the country.
No model ever is. I just don't see the assimilation problem posed by Hispanic immigration.
I have my own set of friends, customs, activities etc... I don't celebrate Cinco De Mayo but I have no reason to begrudge others who wish to. (I do resent being dragged onto the dance floor during a salsa song, but that's just the price one has to pay for not being Donald Trump).
I don't speak Spanish but don't fear those who do.
Crime is down in my area and gangs were suppressed long ago except for the Bandidos, and they've always been nice to me.
All my experiences with Hispanic immigrants have been positive. They are the predominant labor force in my area. They are paid well, and I can't imagine who would take their place if immigration were stopped.
Given some of the comments I've seen on immigration threads, I think the REAL beef you have with Dane's comment is that it got too close to the truth.
I don't think anyone can doubt that there is a fair amount of racism among certain immigration hawks. I also think that it is tolerated by other immigration hawks. So trying to call in a moderate on Dane seems to me to be an effort to hide the truth.
Yes Congress does have that perview, where did I state it doesn't.
It also has the power to disregard your neo-National Socialist views, and try to bring some sanity into the system.
That may have been. Right now, I am referring to our LAWS. Laws can change. If our President doesn't like the laws that prohibit people from sneaking into the country, then he should be fair and announce he is going to push for the laws' removal.
That's why I chuckle at those on FR who wish for a neo-porgrom of new immigrants, when the vast majority of these peoples ancestors, also faced the animus that these people on FR spew now.
We may be the descendants of both slaves and slave owners here now, too, but we do have the right to speak up on current policy affecting America.
Funny how you cheap labor types like to pass off your selfish greed as "compassion" and play the "racism" act.
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