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What Jan Egeland [Mr. Stingy] really said [short transcript]
UN ^ | 12-27-04 | Jan Egeland

Posted on 12/28/2004 8:02:21 PM PST by OXENinFLA

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To: perfect stranger
Norway's GDP is $171.7 billion x 0.9% = 154.530.000
United State's GDP is $10.99 trillion x 0.14% = 1.538.600.000

The above numbers from CIA World Fact Book. I hope I got the math right. :-9

The USA is only higher, in actual dollars, by a factor of a thousand, but Jan at the UN wants everyone to believe that Norway's aid is 6.4 time greater.

41 posted on 12/28/2004 8:48:32 PM PST by RJL
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To: OXENinFLA

I heard his weasly "backtracking"...And my blood is still boiling!


42 posted on 12/28/2004 8:53:50 PM PST by lainde
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To: RJL

New math.


43 posted on 12/28/2004 8:53:58 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (Because I fly, I envy no (wo)man on earth. - Anon)
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To: OXENinFLA; All

Typical ignorencia intelectual. The pie is too small mentality. No concept of making more pies.

The glass is not half empty, the glass is not half full. To them the glass is too big.


44 posted on 12/28/2004 9:02:28 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Mississippi Bump!


45 posted on 12/28/2004 10:01:23 PM PST by The Loan Arranger (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Saw this on Rich Galin's Site (www.mullings.com)
I love this guy!



The United States - the "stingy" United States - contributes 20 percent of the entire budget to run the United Nations. Out of every five dollars of Egeland's salary, the taxpayers of the United Stingy of America pay one.

As quickly as someone could draw up the papers, the United States pledged $15 million to the relief effort - a number which was upped to $35 million by yesterday afternoon.

By comparison the entire European Union had pledged $4.6 million. The French? The French decided to pony up $136,000.

And keep in mind, that $35 million is just the official US government portion. Many times that amount is being raised and spent by individual citizens giving to charitable organizations all over the country. Those donations are not counted in the $35 million which is not understood by intellectual thugs like Jan Egeland.

Egeland apparently believes that only money spent by governments counts. That's because he comes from Norway where the government does almost every thing for every one and so individuals don't have to do much.

However, in America we believe that the government should do what it NEEDS to do and the citizens are perfectly capable of handling the rest.

According to the UN website there are 191 members. Some of them are pretty well known to Americans: Great Britain, New Zealand and Spain to name three. Others are not so well known, such as: Lesotho, Tuvalu and Kiribati.

Here are my proposals: First, not one stingy penny of US money should be sent to the United Nations until Mr. Egeland is fired. Period. Let the French make up the difference.

Second: While I believe there should be a United Nations, it shouldn't be on the East Side of Manhattan.

If people like Jan Egeland are truly dedicated to their cause, they should do their work where it is needed most. We should move the UN to a place like Kiribati. Or Tuvalu. Or even to Lesotho.

Amen, Brother!


46 posted on 12/28/2004 10:07:05 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (Because I fly, I envy no (wo)man on earth. - Anon)
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To: Howlin

Stuart Varney had a writer for The Nation magazine on Neil Cavuto today, and Stuart came armed with charts showing the United States as the most charitable nation on the face of the Earth. Those charts showed dollar amounts even before the tsunami disaster. Ironically, the French typically donate roughly $136,000. America, Australia and Japan are the most charitable nations.


47 posted on 12/28/2004 11:53:12 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The United States is assessed 25 percent of the United Nation's general budget.

Our 25 percent compares to 12.5 percent for Japan and 8.93 percent paid by the United Kingdom.

The US. is assessed 31.7 percent of the cost of peace-keeping activities, compared to 8.5 percent for Russia, 6.3 percent for the U.K. and 7.6 percent for France.

The U.S. donates logistical support, weapons, NATO flights, intelligence, ships and manpower to U.S. peacekeeping operations while virtually all other countries are reimbursed for such goods and services.

The U.S. is also the largest donor to most of the U.N.'s independent agencies, such as UNICEF and the U.N. High Commissioner on Refugees.

I saw that part of the show; I wish I could find his charts!

I also found this:

House Approves $582 Million Back Dues Payment to U.N. (Members say terrorist threat made action more urgent)

Author: Ralph Dannheisser

September 25, 2001

Text:
Washington File Congressional Correspondent

Washington -- The House of Representatives has approved a measure that clears the way for payment of $582 million in back dues to the United Nations - the second of three payments that the United States has pledged to clear up its acknowledged debt.

The legislation passed by voice vote after only about 10 minutes of discussion. The Senate had approved the payment by a 99-0 vote back in February, so House action sends the measure to President Bush to sign the measure into law. Members said the easy House passage September 24, after months of delay, reflected two new realities: the determination by legislators to avoid partisan infighting in the wake of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington earlier in the month, and the desire to remove an irritant to the international community at a time when the president is seeking to forge a broad antiterrorist coalition.

Representative Christopher Shays (Republican, Connecticut) termed the vote "one of the most important foreign policy decisions Congress will make this year." Representative Tom DeLay of Texas, the third-ranking Republican in the House, had successfully blocked House action till now. He and conservative colleagues sought to make release of the funds contingent on approval of an unrelated amendment that would have exempted U.S. soldiers from the jurisdiction of an international war crimes court and withheld military aid from countries ratifying the treaty to set up the court.

DeLay has now agreed to consider such legislation separately. Swift payment of the back debt to the U.N. was strongly supported in floor statements by both House International Relations Committee Chairman Henry Hyde (Republican, Illinois) and Representative Tom Lantos of California, the senior Democrat on the committee.

Hyde said enactment of the measure would ensure that "we can pay the second installment of our arrearages to the United Nations in return for continued progress in lowering our assessment ceilings for the U.N. regular budget and for U.N. peacekeeping operations."

His reference was to an agreement worked out last December by then-U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, under which the United States would pay some $926 million in three stages, while the United Nations would cut the future U.S. share of its operating fund from 25 to 22 percent, and gradually reduce the U.S. share of the separate peacekeeping fund from more than 31 percent to 25 percent by 2006.

In addition, the United Nations agreed to a range of financial and management reforms sought by the United States.


48 posted on 12/29/2004 12:06:01 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Wish I had written down the sources for his charts.


49 posted on 12/29/2004 12:12:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I didn't look quick enough!


50 posted on 12/29/2004 12:13:58 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Me neither. I was too busy gloating that this intolerable rube from The Nation was pistol-whipped on national TV.


51 posted on 12/29/2004 12:15:47 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper

LOL.....Stuart is the bomb, isn't he?

BTW, we sent the USS Lincoln and a squadron of planes, including helicopters for searches.


52 posted on 12/29/2004 12:19:32 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I like Stuart. Always have since his days with CNN, then CNBC. Wish he had his own show on FNC.


53 posted on 12/29/2004 12:22:28 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I wish John Gibson had O'Reilly's spot.


54 posted on 12/29/2004 12:27:07 AM PST by Howlin
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To: BigSkyFreeper

It's coming back on at 4......I may stay up and try to catch it!


55 posted on 12/29/2004 12:41:25 AM PST by Howlin
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To: OXENinFLA

How much does Norway contribute to the security of peace in this world by way of their armed forces like the US does?
Instead, they and so many other countries, Canada included, rely on big brother, the United States, to provide for them a sense peace and security in this troubled time, without them having to contribute a dime.
We do the vast majority of providing for a sense of peace in this world through our military, and with our men and women, and with billions of our money every year, and all we get from countries like this, you are 'stingy' in providing aid to disasters like this!
These people make me so angry!


56 posted on 12/29/2004 1:22:42 AM PST by rawhide
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To: BwanaNdege
2002 Generosity Index ALL RETURNS by State
State
United States
Mississippi
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Louisiana
Alabama
Tennessee
South Dakota
Utah
South Carolina
Idaho
Wyoming
Texas
West Virginia
Nebraska
North Dakota
North Carolina
Kansas
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Montana
Average Income
$46,160
$33,754
$35,467
$37,098
$37,102
$38,472
$39,773
$35,907
$41,042
$38,123
$37,636
$43,817
$43,546
$34,941
$39,708
$35,654
$41,896
$42,187
$43,875
$44,802
$38,210
$33,775
Charitable Contribution
$3,455
$4,484
$4,303
$4,117
$3,940
$4,136
$4,856
$3,746
$5,596
$3,830
$3,379
$6,356
$4,540
$3,114
$3,421
$3,124
$3,579
$3,505
$3,779
$3,937
$3,072
$2,814
Giving as % of AGI
7.48%
13.28%
12.13%
11.10%
10.62%
10.75%
12.21%
10.43%
13.63%
10.05%
8.98%
14.51%
10.42%
8.91%
8.62%
8.76%
8.54%
8.31%
8.61%
8.79%
8.04%
8.33%

57 posted on 12/29/2004 1:26:24 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: rawhide
Military expenditures - percent of GDP: 1.9% (2003)
58 posted on 12/29/2004 4:04:09 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
And isn't Norway going to run out of oil in about 20yrs?


The National Budget 2005 of Norway.

59 posted on 12/29/2004 4:28:35 AM PST by OXENinFLA (BOYCOTT NORWAY!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think we need to rethink our email strategy. I would suggest that we compliment him on his insight that Americans want to pay more in taxes to support the fine work done by the UN. I think you could combine this with a few emails to the DNC. I mean the DNC is looking for a new strategy to bring in votes and regain their edge in American politics. Wouldn't it be grand if the DNC used this advice and made "Raise taxes to support the UN" a part of their platform. Believe it or not, it could be a real winner for the democrats.


60 posted on 12/29/2004 4:36:18 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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