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Can I please make one point, unrelated to the main thrust of the thread.

Major combat operations are not finished in Iraq, regardless of what Mr. Bush said those many months ago. When you have 10-15 thousand troops clearing a city (Fallujah), that is a major combat operation.

Now as far as the use of the term insurgent is concerned, it is an accurate use of the word, whether we like it or not. One need only consult a dictionary to conclude this. They are, at the same time, terrorists involved in the insurgency. One can be a terrorist and an insurgent at the same time.

The longer this goes on the worse it seems to get..
I am all for the troops and the Administration but
let's help with the election....then clean up as
much as we can and let them go at it....in spite
of it all...I don't feel we need to exacerbate the
situation..it is a religion to them to kill us
and damned if i want to see our grandchildren under
the same terrorists on a consistent basis....Jake

DMZ,

You are sadly wrong on the use of the word INSURGENT. The people we fight in Iraq have zero political vision for the future of Iraq. 90% of the violence is tribal warfare fought by blood lusting fascist nihilists left over from the Saddam Regime. The other 10% is Terrorist Violence perpetrated by sociopath, Islamic Fundamentalist, Nihilists who give Stalin and Hitler a run for their money in terms of pure evil. Jihad is martyrdom for salvation or in other words Death for the sake of Death without end. Neither one of these groups fits into the definition of Insurgent. Neither group seeks to create a new order in Iraq along their particular political agenda. Don't buy into this caliphate crap-ola its propaganda designed to win over recruits for martyrdom. As for the Fascists remnants of the Saddam Years they only want to kill their enemies, which is most of the world. After that they don't have much of a platform either. Neither group has grass roots support indeed according to the most recent polling 92.8% of all Iraqis reject VIOLENCE yet your so called "insurgents" live only for violence.