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Alleged Deer Hunter Killer in Court This Week
WEAU-TV 13 News ^ | December 27, 2004

Posted on 12/27/2004 7:20:41 PM PST by Ladysmith

The man accused of killing six deer hunters in northwestern Wisconsin has another a court appointment this week in Hayward.

Chai Soua Vang, from St. Paul, Minnesota, faces six counts of murder in the November 21st shootings, which started after a dispute over a tree stand on private property in southern Sawyer County. Six Rice Lake area residents were killed and two wounded in the shooting spree. Vang was not wounded.

Vang's preliminary hearing is set for Wednesday to determine if there is enough evidence for a trial.

The 36-year-old remains in the Sawyer County jail on a two-point-five (m) million dollar bond.

WEAU-TV 13 News plans to carry the court hearing live beginning at 9:00am on Wednesday morning, December 29th.


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To: El Gran Salseron
"Uh, didn't he confess? Exactly what has to be determined?"
Answer...Movie and Book rights</sarcasm>

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21 posted on 12/27/2004 8:19:25 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: Ladysmith

He ain't dead yet?

Me thinks he needs a new boyfriend in the pokey.


22 posted on 12/27/2004 8:43:03 PM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Petruchio

Maybe we need to petition the Judge...


23 posted on 12/27/2004 8:49:17 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: hlmencken3

Let's just fry this bastard.


24 posted on 12/27/2004 9:02:31 PM PST by bust (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy...)
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To: bust

Right after a fair trial, of course.

I predict he will get off with insanity plea.


25 posted on 12/27/2004 9:07:11 PM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
ALLEGED deer hunter killer?.......

Yeah right. Now they can have an ALLEGED trial in an ALLEGED court complete with an ALLEGED jury who will deliver an ALLEGED verdict.

Problem solved
</sarcasm>

26 posted on 12/27/2004 9:21:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

Where I live, we'd have shot his alleged ass and buried him in an allegedly undisclosed location.


27 posted on 12/27/2004 9:24:32 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the Legislature is in session.")
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
Where I live, we'd have shot his alleged ass and buried him in an allegedly undisclosed location.

Same here.

28 posted on 12/27/2004 9:27:51 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Ladysmith

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S5189.html?cat=1


29 posted on 12/29/2004 7:16:51 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

Untill he is convicted he should be called alleged. This is only proper, because he is innocent untill proven guilty by a jury.


30 posted on 12/29/2004 7:19:50 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth,rebel by choice, MARINE BY GOD!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; PjhCPA; Iowa Granny; ohioWfan; Petruchio; SJackson; Rytwyng; Dr Snide; ...
Ping to post #29.

Thanks, ButThreeLeftsDo.

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31 posted on 12/29/2004 7:32:26 AM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: TMSuchman

No. The headline refers to an "alleged" killer. He is an admitted killer. Others saw him kill. There is nothing left to be proven as to his being a killer.

There remains some question as to whether he is a murderer or not, so he is an "alleged" murderer. There is no dispute whatsoever, by anyone, that he is a killer. To insist on an overwrought, incorrect usage of "alleged" is simply political correctness gone mad.


32 posted on 12/29/2004 8:14:09 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the Legislature is in session.")
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
Bu our "legal system" he has NOT been convicted, his confession is a piece of evidence against him. I agree that he should rot in jail or he!! forever, but until a jury says so he is still only alleged. We are loosing the argument in the word usage.
What I am saying is a legal term only!
33 posted on 12/29/2004 8:52:11 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth,rebel by choice, MARINE BY GOD!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Prosecutors added the third count of attempted homicide Wednesday, accusing Vang of making two distinct attempts to kill one hunter.

Back in the old days when I was in school, they called that "Extra Credit".

34 posted on 12/29/2004 9:03:23 AM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: TMSuchman

The argument IS "word usage", in particular, the words "killer" and "alleged". In legal terms, "killer" is meaningless. The model penal code doesn't use the term "killer", and I know of no state that uses the term "killer" in its criminal statutes. Mr. Vang is a killer. There is no dispute that he killed his victims. In standard English usage, he is in no way an "alleged" killer. As far as the legal system is concerned, he has not yet been convicted of murder (or homicide, as the term may be in the WI statute). Thus, he is a killer who is also an alleged murderer.


35 posted on 12/29/2004 10:33:06 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the Legislature is in session.")
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To: Ladysmith

This has me a bit concercerned:

"Should AG be prosecuting the hunter murder case?

Journal Times staff and Associated Press MADISON - Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager, who plans to seek re-election to a second term in 2006, will personally prosecute the case against a man accused of killing six hunters and wounding two others, she said Monday.

Lautenschlager's appearance as a prosecutor in the courtroom will be her first since she was elected in 2002. She said she would handle the preliminary hearing Wednesday of Chai Soua Vang of St. Paul, Minn., a truck driver facing six counts of murder in the Nov. 21 hunter shootings in Sawyer County.

Being the state's top prosecutor, is Lautenschlager the person to handle the high-profile case? If she handles the entire case, which is likely to garner state and national attention, it could coincide with her plans to pursue another four-year term."

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"Lautenschlager said she wants to prosecute Vang because of her "personal interest" in cases that involve crimes against people. She last prosecuted the case of a kidnapper of a 12-year-old girl in the late 1990s, when she was a U.S. attorney.

Lautenschlager's plan to pursue re-election comes despite going through a year in which she has been convicted of drunken driving, treated for breast cancer and required to pay a $250 forfeiture for misuse of a state vehicle.
Rick Graber, chairman of the state Republican Party, said Lautenschlager's conviction for drunken driving and misuse of state vehicles would be key issues if she runs for re-election.

"Her conduct in office and the way she handled certain events is absolutely something that voters can and should be reminded of in 2006," he said.

Lautenschlager said she can't control what the GOP might focus on."

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http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2004/12/29/local/iq_3292870.txt

I have this sinking feeling that she is going to hang her election hopes on this trial, utilizing her rusty law skills to very possibly screw up the entire case for the prosecution.

Any Wisconsin FReepers out there that can put my mind at ease by telling me what a great prosecutor/AG/person Peg is?

Go Packers!


36 posted on 12/29/2004 2:55:41 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: PjhCPA; Iowa Granny; ohioWfan; Petruchio; SJackson; Rytwyng; Dr Snide; ozaukeemom; Graybeard58; ...
Ping to the link at #36.

Thanks, ButThreeLeftsDo. No way I can ease your mind here because (everybody together now) SHE'S A DEMOCRAT!

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37 posted on 12/30/2004 6:12:43 AM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: El Gran Salseron

What is to be determined is how many lawyers can line their pockets with monies from a trial. Our system is pitiful.


38 posted on 12/30/2004 6:16:00 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota
"Our system is pitiful."

Agreed without reservation.

And to think that this is supposed to be the "best" judicial system in the world but it has been hijacked by lawyers.

39 posted on 12/30/2004 8:00:42 AM PST by El Gran Salseron (( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own discretion. ))
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