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To: AmericaUnited

"If a human stands in one spot, that spot on the earth will get warmer."

Ummm, i don't think thermal radiation from individuals has much to do with the theory... but I could be wrong. Either way it does not matter. You can rationalize your viewpoint to me all night if you like. Why would I believe you over actual environmental engineers/scientists?

I don't know if it happens or not, and I sure as hell know you have no idea. So I trust the people on the planet best equipped to make that call, the people who study it.

"I want an explanation from you why all of your much vaunted "experts" could be so totally wrong 30 years ago, blathering on and on about coming "ice ages" and why you put so much stock in them."

If you give me a 30 year window I can likely find lots of papers disputing every recently well established theory today. WHat is your point??? You have no idea how science works! How could they be wrong then and not now? Are you serious? Maybe, uhhh, better techniques, data, equipment, not to mention tons more research. That was ONE paper published, that was obvioulsy later proven wrong. This happens all the time in science. Now they have reached a point where they feel the evidence is compelling enough to take the official position that global warming happens. Why is this so complicated? You need to go learn what a 'paper' means in the literature.

The scientific community says global warming happens. Don't trash me for taking the word of the educated people who study the subject rather than you guys!


155 posted on 12/27/2004 5:49:11 PM PST by Alacarte (There is no knowledge that is not power)
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To: Alacarte
The scientific community says global warming happens. Don't trash me for taking the word of the educated people who study the subject rather than you guys!

Global warming happens, global cooling happens, Ice Ages happen, Sun Spots happen, Deep Ocean currents change.

However, the connotation of "global warming" is that it is all man made - which is, of course, complete bullsh!t, speaking scientifically.

You have to separate the scientific facts from the political noise to get your message across to the ignoramuses.

167 posted on 12/27/2004 6:14:33 PM PST by balrog666 (Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.)
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To: Alacarte
You have no idea how science works! How could they be wrong then and not now? Are you serious?

Just the opposite! You have no idea how politicized science is and how "real" science is many times squashed flatter than a bug on a windshield. Some scientists are just sheep, others who are intellectually honest but "politically incorrect" lose grants, positions, are censured, etc., etc.

175 posted on 12/27/2004 6:37:26 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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