Posted on 12/27/2004 12:19:23 PM PST by b2stealth
"But why dioxin, which has never been known to have caused a fatality?
If it was KGB, why not use ricin or potassium chloride to ensure he is killed?"
A good point. Perhaps a really weak attempt at masking the operation? Whoever planned the operation clearly over-thought the problem. They had access and then blew it. I still like the Russians for it (but I am very biased).
Even though Soros supported Kuchma does not show his loyalty. He is an atheist with no moral values. He is an instrument of Satan. Soros and his NGO's will use whoever whenever it so seems beneficial to their end goal.
There is more to this than we know in this Ukrainian election.
Dear brothers and sisters!
I would like to express my heartfelt greetings to all celebrating Christmas according to the Gregorian calendar.
Christmas is one of the most significant events in the Christian world. The followers of various religions celebrate this holiday at different dates. However, this cannot prevent us from experiencing the evangelic miracle of the birth of the Son of God and feel our unity in Christ.
For thousands of years this holiday has joined Christians in the eternal truths of life, made all of us think about the deep sense of being, and filled our hearts with love and charity.
My dear, I sincerely wish good health, happiness and prosperity to you. Let the light of the Start of Bethlehem warm our hearts, strengthen our faith, inspire to good and fair deeds. Let God’s grace come down on Ukraine and help our people find the shortest way to peace and understanding.
Christ is Born!
Glorify Him!
Sounds normal (conservative)to me.
It's an urban legend, a bit of propaganda that says the claim of fraud was based on exit polls. The evidence of fraud is long.
The ballot counting process was closed. Kuchma's election commission counted the ballots. You can't get more corrupt than that and there's a lot more.
It was Ukraine defense minister Aleksandr Kuz'muk who back in September said he wanted to pull the Ukrainian troops out of Iraq. He said this a day after president Kuchma signed an Executive Order to remove the existing defense minister Evgeniy Machuk, replacing him with Kuz'muk.
Again: Kuchma and Putin support Yanukovych. They also both support Kuz'muk. Kuz'muk a day after being given the defense ministry job by an Kuchma EO declares that Ukraine troops will pull out of Iraq. The following is a direct quote of Kuz'muk;
Where's your direct quote of Yushchenko?
Document for all the George Soros ties to Yushchenko.
I bet there's somebody on this thread who can document Yanukovich's ties to Soros.
Yushchenko is married to Kateryna Yushchenko-Chumachenko (his second wife). She is a Ukrainian-American born in Chicago and a former official with the U.S. State Department, where she worked as a special assistant to the Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs. Opponents of Yushchenko have criticized her for remaining a U.S. citizen. During the recent election campaign, Kateryna was accused of exerting the influence of the U.S. government on her husband's decisions, as an employee of the U.S. government or even a CIA agent. She had earlier been accused by Russian television journalist Mikhail Leontyev of leading a U.S. project to help Yushchenko seize power in Ukraine; in January 2002, she won a libel case against him. Ukraine's pro-government Inter television channel repeated Leontyev's allegations in 2001 but in January 2003 she won a libel case against the channel as well.
1,000,000,000 Ukraine Hryvnia = 193,109,841 US Dollar
1,000,000,000 US Dollar (USD) = 5,178,400,000 Ukraine Hryvnia (UAH)
Source is Oanda.com
It looks like they weren't even in the same ball park as our election, but that is still a ton of money....
First, Soros was trying to force Kuchma out in favor of Yushchenko in 2001. That's the first sign that Soros wanted Yushchenko in office.
Next, the strongest evidence is based on similarities to two KNOWN Soros-funded efforts. Namely, OPTOR in Serbia and KMARA in Georgia.
In each of these cases, we have seen intial voting that was a close loss for the Soros-backed candidates. These result were disputed, with accusations of fraud being made on the basis of exit polling data (which is known to be inaccurate - look at the 2002 and 2004 elections here).
At this point, the Soros-funed opposition takes to the streets, threatening crippling general strikes and demonstrations until they seize power DESPITE LOSING THE ELECTION, often engaging in as much fraud as the folks they deposed.
The modus operandi is very similar in all three cases. A lower-grade effort was even mounted in Ohio - again, we saw exit polling data cited in an effort to smear Ken Blackwell. We saw a Soros-funded group (ACT) caught with fradulent voter registrations (like Mary Poppins) in Ohio. This was a well-funded protest campaign - did those large displays at the demonstrations crom from the Kiev or Sevastopol Circuit City, or did Best Buy have them in stock?
I have to wonder if Mary Poppins voted for Yushchenko inthe Ukraine. I would not be surprised if she did.
Sounds like Washington State....WE NEED ANOTHER ELECTION HERE FOR GOVENOR!!!!
FICTION ALERT!!!!!!!
Democracy isn't glamorous. But freedom to choose one's own leaders is everything. Next week Yuschenko may turn out to be a failure. But Moscow didn't choose him, a majority of Ukranians (presumably) did. Once a body politic has chosen its leaders, it is obligated to help them succeed.
Supporters of Ukrainian opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko wave the national flag as they watch fireworks during a rally in central Kiev, December 28, 2004. Yushchenko, winner of Ukraine's re-run of a rigged presidential election, called on his supporters on Tuesday to block the country's government building. (Petar Kujundzic/Reuters)
I wish the best for them!
Word is "cite."
Is there any chance the Russians will keep their hands off?
My comment was made with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek.
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