Posted on 12/27/2004 9:23:23 AM PST by calcowgirl
Now Bush wants to allow millions of uneducated Mexicans into the US to leech off our tax base.
The bottom line is that corporate america and liberal communists are in favor of allowing more illegals in here. The middle class working slobs and their children are the ones who suffer.
They are forcing us the way of Rome very very quickly.
Finally, you failed to put forth a single refutation of how the immigrant of today is similar to that of 1906. You can't because they are different.
I definately agree with you that the vast majority of Italian immigrants were not part of the mafia, but it seems you are more than willing to engage in the same type of rhetoric that smeared your family and heritage for decades.
We reward stupidity and those without any skills and scorn those who want to come here legally with sponsors and an education. Go figure.
Huh? Corporate America and liberal communists are on the same side?
BTW, when is Pat Buchanan going to refuse his paycheck from "corporate America"(i.e MSNBC).
The objective facts are not in dispute. I agree that immigrants of yesterday were tarred with similar labels, etc etc.
However, the fact remains that Italian immigrants did not demand that the society assimilate to them, they assimilated to it because they loved this country, as did most other groups at that time. Today, I believe, you have a different dynamic at place. Many of these wonderful workers want to exploit our system, not abide by it. They have willing accomplices in employers who want to avoid taxes that the rest of employers must pay.
However, the fact remains that Italian immigrants did not demand that the society assimilate to them, they assimilated to it because they loved this country, as did most other groups at that time
Huh, they did help elect FDR and his economic policies are what we are dealing with today.
I suspect your trying to get this thread pulled by getting personal. I for one won't be baited.
Try to debate in a civilized manor. You could start by reposting your comments on the Agriculture bill
Yes they are. Corporate America wants to bring these people in to pay low wages and liberals want them here as new welfare cases, i.e. new voters for Democrats.
God forbid an American gets decent wage to clean the S%$%^ off a toilet.
I could care less what the union bosses put out. I know what she is, but if she puts forth a good immigration reform bill, I will support it. I could care less who puts the bill on the table. If its good, I will support it.
If she put a tax cut bill on the table I will support it. I will support any conservative issue she wants to run with, but I will not support her if she runs for the White House.
It amazes me to watch all you Bush Bots support Bush when he pushs the Democrat socialist issues, but you won't support a Dem, when he pushs a Conservative issue.
Hypocritical and ideological; I guess thats what happens when your lips are glued to someone elses ass.
You are living in the past. Today is almost 2005 and we are swamped with illegal criminal aliens who refuse to assimilate, speak English, and obey our laws. If you want to discuss FDR that is fine, but I say we do so after we deport all of the convicted felon aliens first.
You agree or not????
100%. My loyalty is to this country and itsw interests, not those of GWB. If Kerry were for dropping the hammer on terrorists, deporting illegals, cutting spending, et c etc, I would have voted for him.
If GWB embarks on a course danageous to America, it is our duty to oppose him.
God forbid an American gets decent wage to clean the S%$%^ off a toilet.
And what if some paisan, found a way, instead of paying an hourly wage to clean the sh!t out of toilet, but paid the paisan or hispano for the # of toilets cleaned using technology. I surmise you would think that that paisan or hispano are evil, since it is not an hourly wage.
JMO, you shouldn't, you should learn a word called productivity, instaed of being stuck in the FDR 30's.
The AFL-CIO is all for letting these illegals get full benefits and citizenship so they would be on the opposite side of Hillary Clinton's false position on this issue.
Seems to me that there is a lot of posturing on her part but no substance.
Exactly.
You still pay dues to them.
If you were serious, IMO, you would be on FR putting threads out that FED govt. unions, screaming that FED govt. unions should be "right to work".
That's exactly what she is doing now. As I said, "if she puts a good bill on the table" I will support it.
That does not equate in my support of Hilary; that means I support the bill.
Que?
Absolutely nothing! And that is exactly where this country is heading.
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