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I grew up loving and revering Europe, until I lived there and realized how secular it was. Until Europeans embrace their history, their decline will continue.
1 posted on 12/27/2004 4:24:06 AM PST by ishmac
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To: ishmac
It's the continent of Eurabia now. Not that it will be a pleasant marriage for the non Muslim europeans.
2 posted on 12/27/2004 4:56:22 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: ishmac
I lived for seven years in Europe: in Germany, Italy, Spain, Britain and travelled extensively. Europe is a beautiful museum. Its modern culture is a sad and exhausted remnant. Its politics are socialistic and bureaucratic. Its future hangs by a thread.
4 posted on 12/27/2004 5:02:22 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: ishmac

frogism 101........


5 posted on 12/27/2004 5:04:12 AM PST by Route101
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To: ishmac

I look forward to buying George Weigel's new book next year. Europe may be kitschy to the ACLU but its revolting to mainstream Americans.


6 posted on 12/27/2004 5:06:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ThomasMore

Book to read Ping!


7 posted on 12/27/2004 5:16:59 AM PST by no more apples (God Bless our troops)
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To: ishmac

Europeans can't make religion go away just by wishing for it. When Europeans deny the religion of their history another religion will come along to take its place. There will always be a religious Europe. The question is: which religion will it be?


8 posted on 12/27/2004 5:21:37 AM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: ishmac
"It would be too simple to say that the reason Americans and Europeans see the world so differently is that the former go to church on Sundays and the latter don't,"

It may be simple, but it pretty much sums it up. There is no bigger factor that differentiates the US and European viewpoints.

9 posted on 12/27/2004 5:24:30 AM PST by Always Right
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To: ishmac; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


12 posted on 12/27/2004 5:56:35 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: ishmac
"Unbelief in God" is a euphemism for atheism.

Atheistic nations fall.

"European 'high culture' is, largely, Christophobic..."

...i.e. atheistic--and Marxist and decadent. European and American Leftists, who subscribe to this "high culture" think that those of us who do not are ignorant and unsophisticated.

They're wrong.

In fact, it's just the opposite.

Many of us have been there, heard their arguments, understood their positions, seen what they have to offer, and observed that they are ignorant, unsophisticated, decadent, and headed for a fall.

Many others didn't have to understand their position as completely to know that they are hare-brained.

The American Left--in its peculiar mix of arrogance and stupidity--has tried everything to impose this "European high culture" on the United States.

Their hare-brained attempt to put John Kerry in the Presidency was their latest organized effort.

The American people responded on November 2, 2004.

Not only are these people frustrated at the refusal of the American people to comply, but they are frightened because they are convinced that "European high culture" would appeal to everyone sophisticated and educated enough to realize its superior value. They lack the wit to understand that the rest of us are waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of them--not behind them, that we are faaaaaaaar more sophisticated and savvy than they are. This boggles their (very limited) minds.

It's easy to understand why an atheistic people who see nothing of value, worth preserving, protecting, or defending, in their civilization, would sink into a suicidal morass of apathy and confusion, but it's hard to be sympathetic toward them. Especially when the truth is before them and all around them.

16 posted on 12/27/2004 6:15:52 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: ishmac
"Europe is going through a grave cultural and moral crisis."

It certainly is. And if the Europeans don't resolve it soon, the Muslims are going to resolve it for them.

18 posted on 12/27/2004 6:20:34 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: dd5339

interesting read


22 posted on 12/27/2004 6:32:17 AM PST by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: ishmac
Europe has ignored God.

Now it's Europe's turn to be ignored by God.

All the soaring cathedrals in the world won't save her if His Spirit is no longer there.

30 posted on 12/27/2004 6:53:16 AM PST by Gritty ("Democrats and Europeans wholehearted believe the great secular religion—the state as church-M.Steyn)
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To: ishmac
That Many Aim for "Politics Without God"

We're not that far behind and we're closing fast. With the homosexual movement and hate crime, hate speech, laws it won't be long.

32 posted on 12/27/2004 7:08:43 AM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: ishmac
"Christophobia" Afflicts Europe ,......"Messiahphobia" Affects U.S.A./Canada/Israel et al too?
33 posted on 12/27/2004 7:15:11 AM PST by maestro
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To: ishmac

It's amazing that these "educated, intelligent elites" will not face the most fundamental philosophical questions of life:

1) Is there a God? (overwhelming affirmative evidence)

2) Is He good? (for God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son..)

3) What does He require of me? ("To do justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with thy God")

4) How do I get closer to God ("Jesus said to them, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me" (John 14:6))


37 posted on 12/27/2004 7:38:02 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?" "Then I said, Here I am, send me!")
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To: ishmac

There is a profound pessimism in European society. Once upon a time Germans built three generation houses. Now they still build large houses, but they are empty of people.


43 posted on 12/27/2004 9:30:19 AM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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