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To: Grampa Dave; risk; jb6; Destro
The contingent is about as patriotic as the John Kerry troll contingent.

Firstly, I want to say I hope and pray the people of Ukraine success in this victory. Secondly, I resent your insult. I served six years on a Special Forces A-Team during Nam, am a conservative Republican office holder, and I suspect I know more about patriotism and fighting for freedom than any of you. Likewise, I happen to know JB6's credentials and I doubt one of you can compare.
Oh, I forgot, you have grown to trust members of the John Birch Society. I have been asked to join the group a couple of times in the past, but rejected their paranoid view of the world. These individuals are the ultimate in negativity.

It's a solemn reminder: think for yourself and always mistrust anyone who criticizes America for everything we've done in the name of peace and freedom. You always have to ask if there's some sinister motivation. Usually there is.

And sometimes there is stupid ignorance operating on one side. Consider those who demanded we leave Nam in defeat, when unknown to them the NVA was ready to admit defeat, and the millions who died as a result of their stupidity in the killing fields of Cambodia.
There clearly were sinister motivations by WJC when he came to office and they bore fruit later. That said, the point we have been making is that Yushchenko is going to have a major problem ruling the Ukraine, and he has been a total failure in the past. There are two sides in the Ukraine, and Yushchenko's penchant for ruling at the expense of one over the other is going to create major problems. I pray for the people of the Ukraine, and hope these difficulties are overcome, but I see little hope. I wonder how many of you are going to rejoice when and if civil war breaks out in the region?
48 posted on 12/27/2004 5:19:52 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

Here, here. I love these guys who are the first to accuse others of treason and such but have never served themselves. I spent my entire adult life enlisted and commissioned. I got to patrol all those nice spots in the Balkans that wre the results of the EU/progressive revolutions: blood, destruction and dispair. But the progressives got to expend their rule, got more money and in the case of the Balkins, helped their Islamic friends a lot.


55 posted on 12/27/2004 7:08:32 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: GarySpFc; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave
I served six years on a Special Forces A-Team during Nam...

I haven't been reading your posts carefully, and I wasn't even thinking about you when I made the above comments. But if you insist on being considered a special forces veteran with all the credentials that affords to you, then prove it to us. In fact, find a FReeper whom everyone here trusts, and prove it to him personally. I'll believe you then.

That's not enough, though. You have to prove to us that you're thinking on your own and not just following after some pro-Moscow agenda. Plenty of FReepers hide behind a facade of an identity to follow an agenda. Are you?

Regardless of your service or your political affiliation, your ideas have to stand on their own here. You apparently find a good deal of sympathy for FReepers who have a long history of inserting snide, anti-American comments into their otherwise "patriotic" posts.

Suit yourself. But think for yourself. I could care less what you say or do here. Enjoy your day, and carry on.

84 posted on 12/27/2004 1:46:07 PM PST by risk
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To: GarySpFc
I suspect I know more about patriotism and fighting for freedom than any of you...

..and you'd be wrong.

87 posted on 12/27/2004 2:30:31 PM PST by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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