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Hitting the Reset Button - (Republicans shifting to left;Dems shifting to Euro Socialism)
THE RANT.US ^ | DECEMBER 18, 2004 | NOEL SIVERTSON

Posted on 12/26/2004 8:19:36 PM PST by CHARLITE

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1 posted on 12/26/2004 8:19:38 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

The liberals will do their best to provide that corpse so the UN can bury the spirit of America so it's body can be joined to EU and become just another mediocre socialist country hoping the Muslims will wait until after the weekend to attack us again.
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Well this part is for sure -- if the far-left socialists in our country get control of the U.S. -- it will happen. A scary percentage of the people in this country are complacent and weak and pay little attention to what their government is, or could do to them. Like Karl Marx' "USEFUL IDIOTS", the U.S. has theirs too and they will be useful in burying this country -- hell, they would have put a Marxist like Kerry in the White House, and would put another, JUST AS BAD AND IN FACT WORSE, the royal black Marxist queen, Hillary in their too, if her name had been beside the word "DEMOCRAT" on the ballot.

They just don't care. Fools.


2 posted on 12/26/2004 8:26:01 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: CHARLITE
I think the center is moving toward us while they sit out on the Euro weenie left. We need to just stand our ground and let them die off if they stay out there.
3 posted on 12/26/2004 8:28:08 PM PST by KoRn
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The Libs' birthrate is lower than red state America. We'll overtake them in a few years.


4 posted on 12/26/2004 8:30:26 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: CHARLITE
This is the natural outgrowth of a system that depends largely on uninformed, ignorant, and generally non-caring voters whose emotions are aroused every four years by the best and most believable liar and his entourage.

Mr. Sivertson would be well-advised to realize that, even if the electors were once again creatures of the state legislature, Pat Buchanan still ain't gonna be elected President.

Moreover, so long as one insists on insulting the intelligence and slurring the instincts of ordinary Americans, rather than respecting them, one's candidate will not rise above third party status.


5 posted on 12/26/2004 8:39:01 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: CHARLITE
This is the natural outgrowth of a system that depends largely on uninformed, ignorant, and generally non-caring voters whose emotions are aroused every four years by the best and most believable liar and his entourage.

Mr. Sivertson would be well-advised to realize that, even if the electors were once again creatures of the state legislature, Pat Buchanan still ain't gonna be elected President.

Moreover, so long as one insists on insulting the intelligence and slurring the instincts of ordinary Americans, rather than respecting them, one's candidate will not rise above third party status.

6 posted on 12/26/2004 8:39:58 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The Libs' birthrate is lower than red state America. We'll overtake them in a few years.

That's because the next generation of liberals are in dumpsters behind abortion clinics.
7 posted on 12/26/2004 8:42:25 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: okie01

Well said, we need to reshape the debate from ad hominem diatribe to the issues of right and wrong and good against evil.

That we are unchallenged due to our excesses is a BFO, so let's find and/or remind our fellow americans of what matters.

Bush won because he touched some of this, and he is trying to deliver, SOCIAL Sec Reform, etc. if we yawn and fail to support these things then who is the toad in the road?

RW


8 posted on 12/26/2004 9:11:33 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: CHARLITE

Sivertson's insufferable snootiness points up the need we share to be careful who self appoints themselves as spokesmen for the cause. He may speak for thee but certainly not for me.


9 posted on 12/26/2004 9:33:57 PM PST by CBart95
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To: CHARLITE

The radical left is already talking about how we should have proportional representation by party. (ie the greens would have a percentage of reps in the house and senate)

These are the same nutjobs who want to do away with the electoral college to create flyover country.


10 posted on 12/26/2004 9:36:28 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: superskunk

They eat their young.


11 posted on 12/26/2004 9:41:55 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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"But both parties are sliding to the left. The Republicans are where the Democrats were a two generations ago."

Rubbish. The author doesn't know our history.

1 generation ago under President Reagan, Republicans were *afraid* to put government jobs up for bid by private industry (thanks, GWB!) and were afraid to privatize Social Security...both of those issues are already being tackled by President Bush.

2 generations ago it was illegal for Americans to own gold, and Republican President Dick Nixon was giving us Affirmative Action (opposed by President Bush and all modernday Republicans), the EPA (President Bush is opposed to the EPA's opposition to drilling for oil in Alaska and is opposed to the EPA lawsuits that are holding up the progress of further expanding our 12 foot tall steel fence along our border with Mexico), implimented wage and price controls into our economy (compared to our free market system viewpoint today), were registering the owners of machine guns (today's Republicans have passed 46 statewide Concealed Carry laws and allowed the Assault Weapons Ban to expire, in contrast), and were opening up China at the expense of Taiwan.

So clearly the Republicans have moved to the *Right* over the past two generations. Republicans under President Bush have passed the *first* federal law to ban Partial Birth Abortions, for instance...hardly the position of the GOP in 1973.

Yet the author of the tripe for this thread thinks that we've moved to the Left.

That's just laughable. You'd have to be uneducated on the history of Republicans (and that's being kind) to think that going from wage and price controls under Nixon in the 1970's was somehow more conservative and capitalistic than President Bush's 3 income tax cuts, dividend tax cut, elimination of the estate tax, and bidding out federal jobs to the private market.

Such a lack of historical education is yet another reason why 3rd Party fringe candidates aren't paid attention to by the more educated American population at large.

12 posted on 12/26/2004 9:48:48 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Mr. Sivertson would be well-advised to realize that, even if the electors were once again creatures of the state legislature, Pat Buchanan still ain't gonna be elected President.

Sadly there are a lot of "conservatives" that think moving to the right of Pat Buchanan is the only thing that will save this country.

13 posted on 12/26/2004 9:53:48 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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Sadly there are a lot of "conservatives" that think moving to the right of Pat Buchanan is the only thing that will save this country.

Getting "to the right" of Pat has become an odd exercise, as Pat has rounded the bend into a leftish syndicated populism.

His immediate right would now be occupied by, what, Fascism?

14 posted on 12/26/2004 10:22:05 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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Getting "to the right" of Pat has become an odd exercise, as Pat has rounded the bend into a leftish syndicated populism.

Well, politics is more of a circle than a line and Pat leaned so far to the right that he is now leaning left.

His immediate right would now be occupied by, what, Fascism?

Fascism is about as far to the right as one can go but just like its cousin Nazism, it isn't purely a politically right philosophy. It had plenty of elements that are far left too.

15 posted on 12/26/2004 10:30:03 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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Fascism is about as far to the right as one can go

And Pat went right through it, on his way around the back side of the circle.

16 posted on 12/26/2004 10:47:17 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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And Pat went right through it, on his way around the back side of the circle.

Yes he did and sadly too many people still worship him as a god.

17 posted on 12/26/2004 11:14:29 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Horozontil bop alert!


18 posted on 12/26/2004 11:20:15 PM PST by Atchafalaya (When you're there, thats the best!)
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To: CHARLITE

Great column, great writing, every word right on the money.
I have to remember the name "Noel Sivertson".


19 posted on 12/26/2004 11:25:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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I'll give Pat this. He is a free market capitalist when it comes to his cookie jar.

He knows what his audience wants to hear...and how to separate them from their money. He pushes the buttons, they pony up the bucks.

Pat has turned his political philosophy into a thriving little cottage industry. That it is no longer a valid (or consistent) political philosophy is beside the point.

20 posted on 12/26/2004 11:34:58 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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